rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago...

[Jeremie Le Hen]

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:04 AM, John <jwd at freebsd.org> wrote:
> Have you picked up the recent changes to the code in your port?

Yes I did: https://github.com/jlehen/bsdrcmds/commit/3bc90c337176af0953b4194c14825ea14300de90

-- Jeremie

>
> ----- Jeremie Le Hen's Original Message -----
>> I've slacked a bit but here we are:
>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12573
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> >> So the first step was to create a port with FreeBSD rcmds, here we
>> >> are!  But I need some eyes to vet it:
>> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11345
>> >
>> > The port has been submitted and RCMDS are disabled by default from the
>> > base system.
>> >
>> > See you in a month for the removal!
>> >
>> > -- Jeremie
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> -- Jeremie
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh at freebsd.org> wrote:
>> >>> Hey folks,
>> >>>
>> >>> I remember when I was still barely out of my teenagehood, people were
>> >>> mostly using ssh/scp while rtools (rsh, rlogin, ... for the
>> >>> youngsters) were left in place as a courtesy for legacy production
>> >>> systems still relying it on them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Fast forward to 2017 (so yes, 15 years later), stack-clash [1] sorely
>> >>> reminds us that suid binaries are an attack surface. I don't even need
>> >>> to mention that it's a healthy engineering practice to remove unused
>> >>> code, both from a maintenance and security perspective.
>> >>>
>> >>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system.  I
>> >>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people
>> >>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside
>> >>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there
>> >>> will be reduced.
>> >>>
>> >>> The proposed roadmap is:
>> >>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month
>> >>> - remove rtools from the base.
>> >>>
>> >>> What do you guys think?  Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt
>> >>> --
>> >>> Jeremie Le Hen
>> >>> jlh at FreeBSD.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jeremie Le Hen
>> >> jlh at FreeBSD.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeremie Le Hen
>> > jlh at FreeBSD.org
>>
>>
>>
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>> Jeremie Le Hen
>> jlh at FreeBSD.org
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