rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago...

[Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)]

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Emmanuel Vadot <manu at bidouilliste.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:28:16 -0700
> "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Ollivier Robert <roberto at keltia.freenix.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to Jeremie Le Hen on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25:46PM +0200:
>>>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system.  I
>>>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people
>>>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside
>>>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there
>>>> will be reduced.
>>>> 
>>>> The proposed roadmap is:
>>>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month
>>>> - remove rtools from the base.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you guys think?  Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :)
>>> 
>>> Go for it.
>> 
>> 
>> 	rsh, etc doesn?t live in ports, and there are viable uses for it still, even though this day in age they?re greatly reduced.
>> 	- I?ll submit a new port for those that still need it.
>> 	- I?ll disable it in base; add a nice comment noting that it?s available in ports.
>> 	-> Best case scenario, we can remove rsh from base before 12.0.
>> Thanks!
>> -Ngie
> 
> There is maybe "viable uses" for vendors that haven't updated stuff in
> their product, but not for regular users.

Unfortunately this is not necessarily true, given past experience :/. You never know who needs something until it goes away.

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