making SW_WATCHDOG dynamic
Rodney W. Grimes
freebsd-rwg at pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net
Wed Dec 27 18:11:55 UTC 2017
> There is a kernel option, SW_WATCHDOG, which adds a low-level software
> watchdog in hardclock. By default, the kernel and watchdogd support
> only hardware-based watchdogs. There is also a callout-based software
> watchdog that can be enabled by watchdogd with an ioctl if --softwatchdog
> is specified, but watchdogd doesn't switch on its own. The SW_WATCHDOG
> option adds a lower-level software watchdog to the hardware-based mechanism,
> but it adds it unconditionally. I propose to include the SW_WATCHDOG
> facility by default, but enable it only if there is no hardware watchdog.
> I'm interested in any comments, suggestions, or background; feel free to
> mail me off the list. If there are multiple people interested, I'll
> forward messages to that group.
>
> I want to make the change because I have found SW_WATCHDOG quite useful
> at $JOB, and it's annoying to have to build a custom kernel just for this
> (not just once, but every time there is a kernel patch).
This is not a good reason to include this code in GENERIC. Should I
add all the things I find handy at $WORK too?
Further I think this is going in the opposite direction of
what we should be doing, less and less included in GENERIC, more and
more done as loadable options. I think Warner (imp@) is going
down this path with his devmatch code.
Now if you can recode this functionality so that it is a
boot time loadable module I am sure many would be very happy
to have that! It would satisfy your need of not having to
recompile a kernel, and others need of not needing this code
at all.
I think we have lost some light as to what the GENERIC kernel
is really for, to get you up and running good enough that you
can infact build a custom kernel. I do not think it was ever
intended that people run this long term, though over the years
that has become the defacto standard. IMHO, a bad one at that.
> Also, I'm curious why we have two software watchdog facilities. The
> --softwatchdog facility has various options on expiration, such as
> printf/log/panic; I don't know why anything other than panic/reboot
> would be desirable, though. I already contacted some of the people who
> have left fingerprints on watchdog. Also, if anyone wants to review
> the code, let me know.
I have no idea why we have 2, but can hypothosize that 2 different
people did the work, and both got included. As far as only
action on a timeuot being panic/reboot, not sure I agree with
that as we should provide a method (timeout has occured, what
would you like to do) not a policy (reboot/panic).
> Thanks,
> Mike
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