ASLR work into -HEAD ?
Adrian Chadd
adrian at freebsd.org
Wed May 20 15:32:27 UTC 2015
Robert's been busy on a conference presentation. That's happening this
week, so I'll poke him about it later in the week and see if he has
some more cycles to review things.
Thanks!
-a
On 20 May 2015 at 08:20, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 10:43 -0400, Shawn Webb wrote:
>> On Friday, March 20, 2015 03:14:30 PM Warner Losh wrote:
>> > > On Mar 20, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:17 -0400, Shawn Webb wrote:
>> > >> On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 09:28 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>> > >>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Oliver Pinter
>> > >>>> <oliver.pinter at hardenedbsd.org> wrote:>>>>
>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> On 19 March 2015 at 12:56, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at freebsd.org>
>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Apparently this is done but has stalled:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D473
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Does anyone have any strong objections to it landing in the tree
>> > >>>>>>> as-is?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> There’s rather a lot of them specifically spelled out in the code
>> > >>>>>> review.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Many of the earlier ones were kinda blown off, so I’ve not been
>> > >>>>>> inclined
>> > >>>>>> to take the time to re-review it. Glancing at it, I see several minor
>> > >>>>>> issues that should be cleaned up.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Cool. Thanks for taking the time to look at it again.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Shawn is in #freebsd on freenode irc, so if you/others want a more
>> > >>>>> interactive review then he's there during the day.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please CC the core at hardenedbsd.org in future please, when you are
>> > >>>> talking about this issue.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Adrian: do you able to review the MIPS or ARM part especially or test
>> > >>>> them?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Adrian: Do not commit the changes.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I’ve gone back and re-read Robert Watson’s rather long review and it
>> > >>> appears that virtually none of that has been addressed. Until it is, do
>> > >>> not commit it. This code interacts with dangerous parts of the system,
>> > >>> and the default cannot be to just let it in because no one has objected
>> > >>> recently. Objections have been made, they have been quantified, they
>> > >>> haven’t been answered or acted upon. Until that changes, you can assume
>> > >>> the objections remain in place and asking again without fixing them
>> > >>> isn’t going to change the answer.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Warner
>> > >>
>> > >> Warner,
>> > >>
>> > >> We've fixed the vast majority of the concerns raised in that review. To
>> > >> say "virtually none of that has been addressed" and "they haven't been
>> > >> answered or acted upon" is a blatant lie. The fact that there are so
>> > >> many revisions of the patch is proof. We even made our ASLR
>> > >> implementation for FreeBSD less secure by providing a mechanism in
>> > >> ptrace() to disable it as requested by a member of the FreeBSD
>> > >> Foundation. (This "feature" doesn't exist in HardenedBSD's
>> > >> implementation.) If comments like these continue, I will remove the diff
>> > >> from Phabricator and close the BugZilla ticket. FreeBSD can feel free to
>> > >> pull from us, but we won't make any effort to proactively upstream our
>> > >> work.
>> > >>
>> > >> With that said, I have missed a few of the concerns raised. There's so
>> > >> many comments/concerns in that review that it's easy to miss a few. I
>> > >> will address them tonight and upload a new patch tomorrow.
>> > >
>> > > I've updated the patch. Is there anything I've missed?
>> >
>> > I’ve taken a look at the updated patch and see that it addressed the
>> > issues I raised. It almost looks like the update to the review a month
>> > ago was the wrong version, since so many more of the original
>> > comments appear to be addressed than when I looked. Thanks!
>> >
>> > Warner
>>
>> I've updated the patch again. Please let me know if there's anything I've
>> missed. Otherwise, I'd love to see this committed in HEAD. :-)
>>
>
> Does anyone have any updates since I last updated the patch over a month
> ago? What's needed to get this patch in?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn
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