Update for www/amd64/motherboards.sgml - please review

Martin Cracauer cracauer at cons.org
Mon Aug 15 19:45:55 GMT 2005


Can somebody who has the SGML system running and is a native speaker
of English please review the appended diff?

It contains entries for the 4 mainboards that I tried with
FreeBSD/AMD64 recently.

Thanks
	Martin
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RCS file: /home/dcvs/www/en/platforms/amd64/motherboards.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.36
diff -u -r1.36 motherboards.sgml
--- motherboards.sgml	20 Jul 2005 21:39:52 -0000	1.36
+++ motherboards.sgml	15 Aug 2005 19:40:26 -0000
@@ -46,6 +46,42 @@
       <td>Integrated NIC does not work, otherwise fully functional.</td>
     </tr>
     <tr>
+      <td>Abit</td>
+      <td><a href="http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techspec.php?categories=1&model=176">
+	  KV8-Pro</a></td>
+      <td>VIA K8T800 / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href="mailto:cracauer at freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>On-board ethernet controller (vge(4)) does not work unless statically compiled into kernel. Temperature and fans monitors are connected to a custom chip, not the Winbond chip they have for voltage. They don't give out documentation on this custom "uGuru" chip, so no Linux or FreeBSD monitoring. Sound works just fine. No ECC memory support. I replaced it with an Asus K8V-X which has working monitoring and ECC support. I would recommend not giving money to people who needlessly invent cute chips and tell Linux and FreeBSD to go stuff themself when they want to support these chips. Contrary to common believe this is also not a very good overclocker. You need a non-public custom BIOS to even get a working AGP/PCI lock, although the whole point of the K8T800-pro chipset is the ability to have that lock.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>AccelerTech</td>
+      <td><a href="http://www.rioworks.com/HDAMB.htm">
+	  ATO2082</a></td>
+      <td>AMD 8111/8131 chipset, dual socket 940</td>
+      <td><a href="mailto:cracauer at freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>Different name for the Armima Rioworks HDAMB board, see my comments there.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>Arima</td>
+      <td><a href="http://www.rioworks.com/HDAMB.htm">
+	  Rioworks HDAMB</a></td>
+      <td>AMD 8111/8131 chipset, dual socket 940</td>
+      <td><a href="mailto:cracauer at freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current on August 2005</td>
+      <td>Also sold under the name "AccelerTech ATO2082". Works fine. Sound works out of box, as do USB, firewire and SATA. Ethernet only works if compiled statically into the kernel, not as a module. Memory seems slow, I have PC2100 but it is even slower than it should be with that. Temperature monitoring seems broken. Suspend-to-RAM does not work. This is one of the few normal-size ATX dual Opteron boards so that you can use a normal case. Can be had for $120 or so on ebay. Revisions up to C0 or so do not support DDR400 memory (PC3200), only DDR333 (PC2700). No dual-core support. Most likely no support for E stepping Opterons. Note just in case: like all socket 940 bords it needs registered memory. Nothing fancy or fast but a nice board if you want it small, don't need PCI-X or PCIe and want full FreeBSD support. </td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
+      <td>Asus</td>
+      <td><a href="http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=K8N-E%20Deluxe&langs=09">
+	  KVN-Deluxe</a></td>
+      <td>NVidia NForce 3 250 GB / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href="mailto:cracauer at freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>Don't buy this. Ethernet needs the reimplementation of a reverse engineered Linux driver and didn't do 1000mps for me. Sound would not work. Under Windows, the AGP port has hangs/stutter with NVidia 6x00 video cards, in case you plan on dual-purpose with gaming. Lots of issues with Windoze drivers, too. Sometimes crashes hard after using PCI TV card, requiring pysical (PSU) powercycle. Not very fast for compilation, my Via boards are faster (see other entries). However, this board has the Ethernet not on the PCI bus and under Linux (where the driver works) you can get insane speeds of ethernet and disk, at the same time. Has ECC support, too. Still, FreeBSD was no joy on this board.</td>
+    </tr>
+    <tr>
       <td>Asus</td>
       <td><a href="http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&amp;model=375&amp;l1=3&amp;l2=15&amp;l3=0">
 	  A8N-SLI Deluxe</a></td>
@@ -101,6 +137,13 @@
       <td>5.4-STABLE</td>
       <td>On-board audio untested.  The on-board sk0 ethernet controller had issues with 5.3-RELEASE.</td>
     </tr>
+      <td>Asus</td>
+      <td><a href="http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&amp;model=237&amp;l1=3&amp;l2=14&amp;l3=67">
+	  K8V-X</a></td>
+      <td>VIA K8T800 / Socket 754</td>
+      <td><a href="mailto:cracauer at freebsd.org">Martin Cracauer</a></td>
+      <td>6-betas, 7-current</td>
+      <td>On-board audio works fine.  The on-board sk0 ethernet works but is slow at about 33 MB/sec. Linux does 70 MB/sec reading, 48 MB writing on the same card so it's no hardware issue. ECC support. Drives your DDR400 memory in DDR333 if you have more than one module and corrupts memory if you force it into DDR400. Only two fan connectors.  I like it better than the Abit KV8-Pro and that Asus K8N-E deluxe disgrace I had. WARNING: in the default BIOS shipped switching back and forth between forcing DDR400 and autodetection, it would not reliably autodetect. If you go from forced memory specs to autodetection load the whole BIOS-wide factory defaults first. This is a memory corruption issue so don't ignore this warning. Or don't play with the RAM settings to start from, there was nothing to be gained here. The board doesn't do DDR400 with two modules and it doesn't have a AGP/PCI lock so both overclocking and RAM tuning are out. Just plug it in and leave it alone works best here. Overall, while I list my nitpicks, this is probably the best socket 754 board for reliable operations and complete FreeBSD support, with ECC, temperature monitoring etc.</td>
     <tr>
       <td>Celestica</td>
       <td><a href="http://www.celestica.com/products/AMDTechSupport.asp">A2210-SCSI</a></td>


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