** HEADS UP ** FreeBSD commit mail list changes

[Peter Wemm]

Fixed.  Thanks for letting me know about it.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM,  <haro at kgt.co.jp> wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I read most of FreeBSD messages through the following URL:
>  http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/
>
> But messages on the newly created lists, e.g. svn-src-all, I cannot
> be browsed with the error below. Can you look into it, if you've got
> time.
>
> - Sample URL:
>  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=22133+0+current/svn-src-all
>
> - Error message:
>   The specified message cannot be accessed.
>
> As always, thanks for all the hard work on FreeBSD.
>
> Thanks,
>  Haro
>
> From: "Peter Wemm" <peter at wemm.org>
> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:13:51 -0700
> ::*** HEADS UP ***
> ::
> ::FreeBSD.org switched from cvs to subversion (svn) for the src tree a
> ::few months ago.  Since we were continuing to export the svn changes to
> ::cvs (and will continue to do so), we were sending out cvs commit
> ::messages.  For the most part, non-developers didn't have much of a
> ::reason to notice that anything changed.
> ::
> ::However, we were generating svn-style commit messages internally
> ::within the developer group.  This caused problems with post-commit
> ::discussions being fragmented and sometimes unintentionally not being
> ::publicly visible.
> ::
> ::To complete the transition process, I'm turning off cvs-style commit
> ::messages for the "src" tree entirely.  The only commit messages will
> ::be svn-style.  The cvs-src list will no longer get commit messages
> ::(and will go away), and cvs-all will no longer get "src" commit
> ::messages.  (cvs-all will still get ports, projects, doc etc commits).
> ::
> ::In a brave attempt to try and make this transparent to end users, I
> ::put on my peril sensitive sunglasses and copied the cvs-all and
> ::cvs-src list members over to svn-src-all.
> ::
> ::I realize this breaks POLA and will cause some confusion for a short
> ::while, but it was the only practical way I could think of to get the
> ::switch-over done as quickly as possible.  I apologize in advance for
> ::any problems I've caused to any of you.
> ::
> ::In a nutshell, the effects you'll see are:
> ::* New envelope sender address
> ::* different email headers (cvs* become svn*)
> ::* Some of you had your subscription set to 'nomail' - this was NOT
> ::preserved.  Sorry!
> ::* If you had custom list passwords, they were not preserved either.
> ::* Some of you were subscribed to cvs-all in digest, but cvs-src in
> ::individual messages.  Since the two were merged, where there was a
> ::conflict you'll get 'individual' email, not 'digest'.
> ::* obviously the email format you get will be different.  If you've got
> ::filters or scripts parsing email, I'm sorry I broke them.
> ::* commit messages include diffs!  Email messages can be quite a bit bigger.
> ::
> ::Please note that we have several sub-lists.  You may well want to
> ::unsubscribe from svn-src-all@ and chose sub-lists instead.
> ::
> ::A summary of the new lists:
> ::
> ::svn-src-all            SVN commit messages for the entire src tree
> ::(except for "user" and "projects")
> ::svn-src-head    SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current
> ::svn-src-projects        SVN commit messages for the src "projects" tree
> ::svn-src-release         SVN commit messages for releases in the src tree
> ::svn-src-releng  SVN commit messages for the release engineering /
> ::security commits to the src tree
> ::svn-src-stable  SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree
> ::svn-src-stable-6        SVN commit messages for only the 6-stable src tree
> ::svn-src-stable-7        SVN commit messages for only the 7-stable src tree
> ::svn-src-stable-other    SVN commit messages for the old stable src trees
> ::svn-src-user    SVN commit messages for the experimental "user" src tree
> ::svn-src-vendor  SVN commit messages for the vendor work area tree
> ::
> ::For example.. you may only wish to get commit mail for the 7-stable
> ::branch.  You can do that now.
> ::
> ::-releng commits are for release engineering and security errata commits.
> ::-release commits are when release tags get created.
> ::-user and -projects are for work-in-progress areas that are NOT part
> ::of the src tree yet.  -projects are for WIP that is intended to be
> ::committed. -user is for experimental work that might or might not ever
> ::be committed to the base src tree.
> ::
> ::Again, apologies for the POLA violation.
> ::
> ::--
> ::Peter Wemm - peter at wemm.org; peter at FreeBSD.org; peter at yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV
> ::"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5
> ::"If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete
> ::themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell
> ::
>



-- 
Peter Wemm - peter at wemm.org; peter at FreeBSD.org; peter at yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV
"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5
"If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete
themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell