cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_kse.c

Remko Lodder remko at elvandar.org
Thu Nov 15 12:39:22 PST 2007


On Thu, November 15, 2007 9:30 pm, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:08:03PM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
>> Robert Watson wrote:
>> >On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Julian Elischer wrote:
>> >>>>"no matter how small the change, use diff + patch to move it
>> across."
>> >>>
>> >>>After applying the patch on your commit machine, is it too difficult
>> >>>to actually retest before committing?  This would catch the broken
>> >>>commit before it becomes a Tinderbox issue.
>> >>>
>> >>>Seems to be a QA problem on your part.
>> >>
>> >>yes.. but I can't do a compile from my mac. (my commit machine). The
>> >>answer is to be rigorous about how I move the patch from the build
>> >>machine to the commit machine.
>> >>
>> >>This is a temporary situation. new infrastructure will let me commit
>> >>from my build machine again.
>> >
>> >I find having a copy of Parallels (or VMWare) around very useful for
>> >precisely this situation -- it means that even when I have only the Mac
>> >around I can easily do a local test build.  The various VM packages
>> >certainly have their limitations, but they're far better than nothing.
>>
>> And to be fair, there are habitual build breakers and there are
>> non-habitual build breakers.  Julian, IMHO, falls mostly into the
>> latter category, yet I see people focus on him disproportionally.
>> Funny.  Kinda.  Not.
>
> I'm not focusing on Julian.  I'm focusing on the process.  No one
> should be committing a patch that touchs functioning code to src/
> without proper testing.  Moving a patch from a build machine to
> a commit machine and then having to hand apply the patch is prone
> to error.
>
> --
> Steve
>

And we all make mistakes and things like that Just Happen [tm]. I think
that most patches are tested very well in between and the fact that we
dont have a lot of breakages (at least not in my experience) proves that.
No need to sharpen the rules or something, the world is already one sharp
rule :-)

Cheers
remko

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