"Chatty" config files in /etc
Tom Rhodes
trhodes at FreeBSD.org
Thu Aug 31 01:46:36 UTC 2006
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:42:19 -0400
Garance A Drosehn <gad at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question:
> >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
> >Ruslan Ermilov <ru at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > > >
> >> > I do think those comments and examples are useful, but it might be
> > > > better to move those lines into separate files.
> > >
> > > I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like
> >> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults
> > > with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples.
> >
> >Question is, what files will be moved? All configuration files
> >or just "some" ?
>
> I would not move "all" of them. I think the proper rule would be
> "Split up the ones which constantly annoy me when they change".
> Obviously that's a rather subjective criteria...
A better criteria might be those which may be modified and may
have issues with merging.
>
> We could pick off a few and change those, and then see if there
> are anymore which should be split up. My list would be:
> /etc/hosts
> /etc/hosts.allow
> /etc/pf.conf
> /etc/printcap
Of course, my criteria would be moving a lot, including the
firewall rulesets, login.conf, malloc.conf, etc. We should
be careful here, there is a chance we could get carried away
and see a ton of files getting moved. I'm skeptical of this
as it makes configuration files normally stored in /etc a
moving target ... yet it might be good, have you ran an ls in
Linux /etc lately ... damn.
>
> These are files which have "too many" helpful comments or examples
> in them, and which I have to modify on every single machine I ever
> bring up. So *every* time one of these changes, I have to stop and
> stare at the diff in the mergemaster step, and 99% of the time the
> change is just to fix or improve some comment. And in many cases,
> the change is to some line that I remove in my custom copy. Now
> all of those changes seem to be good changes, but they are still
> an annoyance when it comes to merging in my local changes.
Agreed.
>
> I've also had a vague plan to split up /etc/newsyslog.conf, but
> in that case most of the lines I want to move are "real" lines
> (not comments), so that requires some coding changes to make it
> work the way I'd want it to work.
As would my idea. ;)
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Tom Rhodes
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