cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc

[Jiawei Ye]

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:38 -0500, Garance A Drosihn <drosih at rpi.edu> wrote:
> At 8:02 PM -0700 11/28/04, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> 
> >In message: <41AA904F.708 at freebsd.org>
> >             Scott Long <scottl at freebsd.org> writes:
> >: M. Warner Losh wrote:
> >: > In message: <41AA86D1.7070105 at freebsd.org>
> >: >             Scott Long <scottl at FreeBSD.org> writes:
> >: > : For those who think that ease-of-use is important, please
> >: > : accept my apologies.
> >: >
> >: > One could easily have a 'safeboot' command, which would disable
> >: > all the things that the safe boot menu item used to do.
> >: >
> >: > Warner
> >:
> >: safeboot isn't the same as 'disable acpi'.  It was actually quite
> >: useful to disable ACPI but still leave ATA-DMA and SMP enabled.
> >
> >Agreed.  A few wrappers would go a long way is all I'm saying..
> 
> A few wrappers would, in my opinion, be irrelevant.  By the time
> someone tracks down what wrapper to type in, they might as well track
> down what full-blown commands to type in.  The menu was an advantage
> when a user just installed some new kernel, and now their machine is
> having problems.  That is not a good time to go reading web or man
> pages to try to figure out what magic words *might* be worth typing in.
> I admit that I would prefer a smaller (quicker-to-display) menu, but
> completely removing the menu seems (to me) to be a step backwards.
> 
> However, I do notice that few people have objected to the menu being
> removed, so I guess I'll just leave the topic alone.  But I will note
> that most users probably won't realize this change has even happened
> until their next clean-install of some future release...
> 
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad at gilead.netel.rpi.edu
> Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad at freebsd.org
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih at rpi.edu
> 
> 
> 
Actually I do feel sorry to see this commit message. It saved my ass a
few days ago with the acpi_link change with just one key pressed. It
seems strange to me that some people associate "being professional"
and "difficult to use". I vote for keeping the boot screen even if it
seems to be a little late.

Jiawei

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"Without the userland, the kernel is useless."
               --inspired by The Tao of Programming