cvs commit: ports/sysutils/screenie Makefile pkg-descr

[Doug Barton]

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On 9/29/2010 12:00 AM, Erwin Lansing wrote:
| On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 03:19:18PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
|> That concern is understandable, but the problems come in down the road
|> when something in the infrastructure changes, and there is no one to
|> update the stale port. Not culling stale stuff is also how you get into
|> situations like I cleaned up recently where you have ports that haven't
|> even been fetchable for years still sitting around because no one pays
|> attention to them.
|>
| This case is actually actively taken care of,

ACK, but since the question came up, I think it's worth discussing in a
little more detail.

| although of course some
| cases will fall through the cracks.  Portmgr does occassionally run a
| full build of all ports on the pointyhat cluster with local caching
| turned off, forcing all ports to be fetch from the configured
| MASTER_SITES.

Right. The particular cases I was referring to were ports that required
ack'ing a license in order to download, which is a case that
(understandably) can't be handled programmatically. However that was
just the latest bit of cruft that I personally have cleaned up (not that
I'm trying to toot my own horn here).

My larger point is that with the massive number of ports that we have I
think there needs to be _less_ tolerance for unmaintained ports than we
have had in the past because the larger the total number of ports gets
the harder it is to keep things un-crufty. This is particularly true
with ports that we don't anticipate software updates for since new
versions of things tend to stimulate interest from potential new
maintainers.

| In fact, I started one just yesterday.  Maintainers will
| be informed and unmaintained ports will be marked BROKEN, and lateron
| scheduled for deletion.  But like you said, there will still be cases
| that will fall through and we do need to get better at removing stale
| ports.

I'm glad to see that we at least agree on principle here. :)


Doug

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