cvs commit: ports/editors/openoffice-1.1 Makefile
Oliver Eikemeier
eikemeier at fillmore-labs.com
Mon Mar 15 11:06:02 PST 2004
Peter Schultz wrote:
> Oliver Eikemeier wrote:
>
>> Nakata Maho wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to come up with a patch and port it for review,
>>>> than using the FreeBSD CVS for development?
>>>
>>> No. currently I cannot do it. Since OOo is huge port, comparable to
>>> entire FreeBSD sourcecode. Maintaining this port is extremely difficult
>>> if there's no such kind of thing (e.g., patch without IssueZilla
>>> ticket),
>>> we are soon confused what are committed or what aren't.
>>>
>>> My standpoint is reduce OOo patches to build as far as
>>> possible(remember,
>>> there were over 120 patches to build), however, still we have many
>>> (minor or major) problems, so we have ~10 patches. IMHO, development
>>> speed of OOo is extremely fast. to catch up with it, such kind
>>> of things are quite necessary.
>>
>> How about a private CVS repository, like gnome, kde or many other
>> projects
>> have? You leave FreeBSD useres without a working OpenOffice.org port, and
>> I can't really see the benefits of your approach.
>
> Hey! I'm just grateful the guy is doing this work, and you should be
> too. You can install the binary package or even create the private
> repository for him, but to criticize him for doing work on this
> *incredibly complex* port is just simply WRONG.
Creating a private repository should be easy. If <http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/>
won't provide one and sourceforge is inadequate I'll be happy to help out.
But you don't get my point: I don't criticize for doing work on this port, I
just question if this is the best way to do it. 24 ports have been marked
'IGNORE', and this affects a lot of users. Furthermore we won't notice if any
changes in the ports tree will break the OpenOffice ports. I guess you can
imagine that both points are of importance for the FreeBSD OpenOffice
community, and this breakage is easy to avoid.
> Please restrain yourself! We're lucky he's committing the time and
> energy to work on this. If you can't put a positive spin on your
> comments, i.e. "I will help you with this" or, "let me know what I can
> do," just sit quiet like the rest of us.
No reason to get upset. I guess the suggestion to move development to an
private repository is `a positive spin', and should normally ease development
a lot, since you don't collide with other commits, have more freedom for
development and have a broader audience for testing. The cited projects
(gnome, kde) are not small either and pretty successful with this approach.
I tend to see the ports tree as a whole, and hopeful this is beneficial
for the `rest of us' too.
-Oliver
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