Please remove moderated bit from freebsd-ctm-gen at berklix.org for all ctm lists

[Julian H. Stacey]

Hi postmaster at freebsd.org, ctm-src-cur-owner at freebsd.org
cc:  ctm-users at freebsd.org

You still need to un-moderate freebsd-ctm-gen at berklix.org on
ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org please, (I guess you only did ctm-svn-cur-fast)
See moderated report at end.

I earlier mailed you lists to check please:
	ctm-ports-cur
	ctm-src-4
	ctm-src-4-fast
	ctm-src-5
	ctm-src-5-fast
	ctm-src-6
	ctm-src-6-fast
	ctm-src-7
	ctm-src-7-fast
	ctm-src-8
	ctm-src-8-fast
	ctm-src-9
	ctm-src-9-fast
	ctm-src-10
	ctm-src-10-fast
	ctm-src-11
	ctm-src-11-fast
	ctm-src-cur
	ctm-src-cur-fast
	ctm-svn-cur
	ctm-svn-cur-fast

Some lists work, see list at http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/ctm/#latest
Some are not checked:
  - Some older lists are not checked by regular traffic, they exist on a
    standby basis against possible commits,
  - I'm not on the the non -fast lists (except ports) so I cant observe content.
  - I sent a test that failed on all lists (not just non -fast
    lists i'm not on), I have yet to analyse why my test failed to
    relay, that's my problem, but it's one more illustration
    of the time wasting work forced on me, as I don't have
    moderator access to check those freebsd.org hosted CTM delta lists.
	http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#unchecked

It's long been frustrating wasting time indirectly checking freebsd.org CTM
delta lists, not being able to check / fix CTM stuff direct on freebsd.org,
working blind.

Please give Stephen & I via <freebsd-ctm-gen at berklix.org> moderator
password for the above ctm delta lists, so we can control & fix when needed.

If you wont, I will create replacement lists on
	https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo
I cannot afford for freebsd.org hosted CTM delta lists to continue
to waste my time with hands tied.

We wasted time begging for 3 months, for freebsd.org to
create ctm-src-12, before we gave up & created src-12 on berklix.org.
	http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#urls

There may yet be more work to do on list descriptions when & if we
repair GPG keys. It won't be done with tied hands.

Continuing to run the CTM delta lists through freebsd.org as now,
wastes my & your human time, & delays data & list fixes, & mekes no sense.

Please untie our hands to check & maintain those lists on freebsd.org,  
or hand over those lists for us to run on berklix.org.


Forwarded from: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs at berklix.com> http://berklix.eu/~jhs/

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>From owner-ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org Wed Aug 14 16:40:08 2019
Subject: Your message to ctm-src-cur awaits moderator approval
From: ctm-src-cur-owner at freebsd.org
To: freebsd-ctm-gen at berklix.org
Message-ID: <mailman.1201.1565793496.74384.ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:38:16 +0000
X-BeenThere: ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org
List-Id: CTM -current src distribution <ctm-src-cur.freebsd.org>
Errors-To: owner-ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org
Sender: owner-ctm-src-cur at freebsd.org

Your mail to 'ctm-src-cur' with the subject

    ctm-mail src-cur.14147.gz 1/1

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

    Post to moderated list

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

    https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/confirm/ctm-src-cur/481c700d4771502729e678c00ce20685a8da07d4


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Sorry for the hassle, but certain immature people made this necessary.


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Cheers,
Julian
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