From nobody Mon Mar 28 14:54:04 2022 X-Original-To: xfce@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011691A50E6D for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KRwgw4YYCz3HvS for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D9A43AC8 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 22SEs4kT047115 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 22SEs4AH047114 for xfce@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: xfce@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 262883] The pkg package name for x11-wm/xfce4 should be changed from xfce to xfce4 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 14:54:04 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: madpilot@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: xfce@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback+ X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: flagtypes.name cc bug_status Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: XFCE List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-xfce List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1648479244; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7Q4+Ud0f2Rvd9cUPwfdCmCpC5827PfAjfZNSN9DLqi8=; b=xDDKqhrFrdxGQq2wklbedrgAg+REavGylrOaWGX8hKf/mft/oWrlO9TSEgEfyX2MpFCGua 6tN8Cxy2HkrgpzKgdd/tLVzzehUDDl6SUuaDbPrxZOkXfo5Zu0Te1iUCLWcYkFeG7QIXqr gSMgx5sO86LSLtIrxQvOgrog5KCKIJuE918+uzbGOi5OcZJSiMUPUlALYJiycJOt6jk6rm DwFc1JMh174QM8/BNd25M/d2w2o7TTG51tVbyNjlmFjUM9A8XwKH41dKQ+iOTHWoBZOknE lTJTcZX9RSjV8+JWNerfxWv6sL9tA9jAjH+ynNXqmEf+4nlmpEAETBfilj1ZOA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1648479244; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=IerDcfThaWRY7kluNWqWhn5fzq8rWzj10nFo4iiNVPny7/CpxvFlXbQ7S82tc+KSeZj6aD 5fRWZ/g4cSMd/3sa/3G+mjvan1Vy8rnHnP1k8nv5Ns3InnOoSz+nDOZFzF560DXdraWUzS e/+2vp9sCyYBanbeovZFdEGelFBZWTtHpDK7HCZmrDjr/TdyfSKn8DPDUULrH1WXDo08X2 CuAg0jW4Y8gZlwxJiFSfbvnAROI2ZcwDleH6MPDHGxYL2UvzU3ugkBqm4a3cvCUenN5sbf Q5xEJ5/3WnPS/nZtWv9j9ZmXkbtoEpKEq3VOhvcWFM25CHiJf2C22z6SCpbl6w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D262883 Guido Falsi changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags|maintainer-feedback?(xfce@F |maintainer-feedback+ |reeBSD.org) | CC| |madpilot@FreeBSD.org Status|New |Open --- Comment #1 from Guido Falsi --- Hi, Thanks for reporting this. While I do not dismiss your worry right away, things don't look so clear cu= t to me as you imply. In fact I don't feel like taking a decision by myself, I'd like to get feed= back from other committers and contributors before any action is taken on this. To give a timeframe, the naming of this metaport has been like this for a l= ong time, this is the commit which set it to "xfce": https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D73097a726707ebe313ebbe450c3731d= f14ad431c (referencing on the current git repo, at the time we were still using CVS) An important consideration to make is that changing the pkgname of a port is quite invasive, all users would have to tell pkg to move to the new one. Al= so renaming the port directory has consequences, for example all users using l= ists of origins (for example for poudriere, but also scripts and configuration management systems can digest those) would requires users to change their configurations. So any of these changes has to stand a POLA challenge, that means: is the "astonishment" imposed on users who would have to perform special steps to = keep up with the change acceptable when weighted against its advantages? The advantage you claim is conformance. Which may not be worth reverting a = 19 years old change and forcing all users of xfce to reconfigure their systems. Also there is no real rule for package names to equal the port directory na= me, in fact most flavored ports for different python, perl and php versions end= up with a package name that is not aligned with their directory name in the po= rts tree. I've not looked up for more examples. My impression is that a more correct fix would be to change the directory n= ame from x11-wm/xfce4 to x11-wm/xfce, since it is quit improbable we will never have more than one major xfce version in the tree anyway, and the actual na= me ISS xfce. But Personally I'm open to any options, as long as it creates as little astonishment/confusion/need for manual intervention for users and committer= s as possible AND some consensus is reached on it. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=