From nobody Thu Aug 01 08:18:18 2024 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WZMKn6RqTz5SMDb for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2024 08:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WZMKn49Hpz4bPv for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2024 08:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1722500301; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=maLivt3wbqjf3lAme7mBE0yQg4gSyROR49KDKe1w/wyrOga3poxEDuUfsBCq+5S33YFgei wPbT1EjmakJ3x1S0RO6B5H7+0bW4tLuDkJCs2a0k4ZzIQvvy8RY5qqKOoLSXhzR1Flr226 47z6wWRWrpHMH/T+M3LFp4StaAuB58SsBBKNKZBpGHq6Ql0jyuhEpv52aTM90uZVoaN6iY OHrQGcxOcuN4bCw0zKLHKMfkr878JJC/JUBeZnoQ00KPlPSNf9NAZ9ItYh9m3rSQ6lyYIJ pNhAf2W1fPWtpAMLutf8mvcV+VVEbJn3ferzkKp8u8yDc23Pj/dpaK0A0lBSzA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1722500301; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ldX60iZ3aGXvscx8srfuInTlyuvjSaCDnG6/kYiOoFs=; b=fXIK/XVo7jO2fbBPaDeTOd/QqstU6c4RXnxeLSBjyw9IrX8+9A9hB+rz1/cqc2GEOjjjGz Xa3m48hFdZLJXKx3ZEQtgDXn8oWdPG5ydQoQXT2u020OPGFqkCrEQYWmC3uI8wKRFdDUP0 1g7piWuuAP5EE0sGhBVZBquOXa1JbzbWG6EK1Ywk+HC4cqOaK66N3FJqZqsPGkKr+0DKLb ld04bLjqQmXNiN/gikPQh1aE+AeyDD3GjbQCazj39ly4wPY/R1mVCu8yrwgT6fAGri7/7f gqlVodpOIbJOPTTk+IdokNtS+p+QE3uW4H3fPeADgseq1cZ41H8VqlbMBblxmA== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WZMKn3RM3zd1b for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2024 08:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 4718IL80038679 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2024 08:18:21 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 4718ILbZ038678 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 1 Aug 2024 08:18:21 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 270509] Various x11-drivers/xf86-video drivers erroneously assume that no kernel driver will attach to graphics cards (need local patches) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 08:18:18 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: manu@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: x11@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D270509 --- Comment #51 from Emmanuel Vadot --- (In reply to Stefan B. from comment #50) > Maybe this is because one particularity of FreeBSD is that most developer= s use=20 > MacBooks and virtual machines for testing. Eating their dog food isn=C2= =B4t very=20 > popular with them. Warren Block already tried to address this, without su= ccess. > So I wonder less and less why Mr. Vadot wrote a laptop backlight tool whi= le at=20 > the same time pushing for removal of support for server-typical hardware. Why would I wrote a backlight tool if I used virtual machines and a macbook= ? I wrote it because I need to control the backlight on my FreeBSD laptops, i= s it hard to understand the reason ? > Years ago, in the mailing list we already had a discussion about your des= ire to remove SC, and one of the main=20 > reasons is that for Nvidia cards suspend/resume only is supported by SC, = but not by VT. Confronted by the sheer=20 > volume of substantiated protests, you postponed your intent to remove it. > Here is the link: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021= -November/000468.html Why did no one bother working on adding support for suspend/resume for nvi= dia on vt(4) ? Also are you sure that it's not working at all of is that only for some old generation ? If it's not working at all it means that nvidia users currently don't use uefi (as sc(4) don't support it) and I feel that a bit odd. > I have to admit that I feel disgusted by way you tried to force the remov= al of=20 > the non-Intel/AMD/Nvidia drivers through the backdoor by making them=20 > dysfunctional by removing pci.c, and let the users clean up the mess. Thi= s all > puts up the question whether it is wise making ones' company's exis= tence=20 > dependent on an OS that can break at any time because of such things. Seriously ? First I didn't removed pci.c, I remove an not-upstreamed patch that, at the time, I though useless. And obviously I didn't do it on purpose to "force the removal of he non-Intel/AMD/Nvidia drivers through the backdoor", that's freaking nuts of= you to think that. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=