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Zeeb" Cc: freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mSATA card? Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QQTMm0yjNz4Pyn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29838, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hey Bjoern! Firstly, thank you for your work. > mSATA or mPCIe? Likely the latter? Yes, it seems that you are right. I've been out of PC world for the last= few years and things changed causing a lot of confusion for me. > No if a driver is in sys/dev or sys/contrib/dev it doesn't mean it's a= ll > open source. A lot of modern NICs (wired or wireless) will have > firmware (blobs) along in order to function. So while the driver (OS > side) is open source, what runs on the chip (the tiny computer on the > cards) usually is not (anymore). Thanks for the explanation. This means that only the FSF certification w= ould ensure that the hardware has open drivers? And I guess this would a= lso be a no-go for me due to whitelist of the bios... =20 =E2=80=94- Micha=C5=82=20 https://michal.sapka.me