From nobody Mon Nov 28 17:19:24 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-wireless@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NLXJr46Fwz4jQ4J for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-f47.google.com (mail-lf1-f47.google.com [209.85.167.47]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NLXJq65R3z41jl; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of adrian.chadd@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=adrian.chadd@gmail.com; dmarc=none Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id g7so18466987lfv.5; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:19:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=FLYc+woLKW5T1uPREX8SENJaQSMpapgM62Z/faiNobo=; b=00QDmJhCzS+j2HFy/1P6ZHIlu44tfuG9bzS+8w8TPmLohoeyr7E4mbthEfHXUX1o+Q wO8HMXJXJgnmjXqRPvIccTelg7kdIY8YQ+kFvzxhqm91ZChZib6IM46dFhYd0tfMBq21 Lxyjtyl/iFBhKeyQt/S6y0Azm+bLkwEqI+ZtA3b8MJA6Uc6TfiVZh3KP4Kb01L3q8Nwj 0AIeG8mqC/TDfgWB6pycuZ1bmMjIVyB6cCTscByBRsKLHWFl9ZU0PZnyENksCIqrkC5o PtrHP8yMh4UwBW5I0cwqVmMXnf0koGfzcm90rJjoahJ7hdJyCbVYUjfshaItVwKijj8j 2WrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmbgPQCzirKBEQHnWpChGCNPABe9Oa4Yekop2bN/7Dc2I49cP5L F4G0Zre2SRoGUYz4ErmlRbGe/klR0L+wZW4ptTaKPnY2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6YdvbarAZLYnIy+59QQZvNSIdoLZOFc3RMQhhx93XDO87gojy6xdevi1JwAg4dnwaiSVZ89+RWqqP1TmbJpFk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1587:b0:4b4:c06b:243b with SMTP id bp7-20020a056512158700b004b4c06b243bmr11025278lfb.280.1669655976979; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:19:36 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-wireless List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adrian Chadd Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:19:24 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IEEE80211_DEBUG_REFCNT breaks drivers To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Cc: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000067b14e05ee8b133f" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.90 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.899]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[adrian@freebsd.org,adrianchadd@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.167.47:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.167.47:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[adrian@freebsd.org,adrianchadd@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NLXJq65R3z41jl X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000067b14e05ee8b133f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Oh I hit send too quickly. The tl;dr there was that the /theory/ being you should be able to build a driver that'll load into a kernel without needing all of the non-global opt_xxx options lying around. The ABI for a given release is supposed to be the ABI. Anyway, I'm a fan of (2) for cleanliness. I'd rather we found a way to structure things to NOT change ABI based on what's in opt_xxx config options. -adrian --00000000000067b14e05ee8b133f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh I hit send too quickly.

The tl;dr there was tha= t the /theory/ being you should be able to build a driver that'll load = into a kernel without needing all of the non-global opt_xxx options lying a= round. The ABI for a given release is supposed to be the ABI.
Anyway, I'm a fan of (2) for cleanliness. I'd rather we= found a way to structure things to NOT change ABI based on what's in o= pt_xxx config options.



-adrian

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