From nobody Thu Feb 01 15:03:31 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TQhxZ3WDqz58pWD for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12f.google.com (mail-il1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TQhxY6SWJz4mDh for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-il1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-363898391beso2593315ab.1 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 07:03:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706799825; x=1707404625; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=TIBRff+517DvwDJNIhh44orLg3F6Q1Ay2OaOKc6+DRg=; b=iiJPJFY47aLhcJbBGLZIInxVwDIj5sGAWRkAkfpIOe5HgInqNswxA0Fbl4P6Stu2Cn /XNeEL7xKig3pPuPMx/vH9mDMCvzJIKgVpeXMIjOdmZxNfApTOIvuHLcww6jcSwoSg8/ g5zixCdn91z7iij0wbGmBwkC565hoPL23lnrTu6eb6/o2fimlVeS28RVzXUobHT5WyNe 70xAAs4ERiwqiNOOZE90CwkFBTv737x0Yu4wtASot+lcxTvwe/XmnnXjoj14Qwv/fIyn IAgmBCn7B5ZchNqgEgRL9vwmUVW54h84qDiE5qUtQLOH5EIDRJ2uGPCpkbeZVcbF3bK9 fJdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706799825; x=1707404625; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=TIBRff+517DvwDJNIhh44orLg3F6Q1Ay2OaOKc6+DRg=; b=bHGnV8lYZ33HfQSm4BPYO+5jXCHBHRh4Eng88gIZHbKgWFFU8WAKu/JE7wWxKLnX3l KaTjyTxuurzihxQvrn9Rj63FLIuyjAavm+gQFyzg60Yei4D630yoOU0wiu3q3Uqrz0GL FAsJWOOA4L59ibQ25SxcvmUPRn3pLgIM7biGHhZBtc+VPHRIWbQ5PDVFK52VWWIVQ1rI pOAnAnhGIaphzEpkNlRLZUGbfcvTNWm1lS4W+Ob+x0XeWL/M++z2Ked8zovRV2eTBgsj BG5OASdzZ21ab8WI+qEzg3kfgTqmnQ7wrfjliFpmKxySgZDKkRhdSDeUVDEuhspvzWHB Trkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzZXYjW3WKAn1SpRERV8KXnfRPBxuXEwZGb4ogU8CTUQ23d44S2 ybH03e6pz9CwgDdHI8WavT6xHID7+teOcNt4l8BHCwlCwidijhFxwMZ1rRTi/7DSqFWBiLYvb89 Fv8/9siBcdBwclhyv99Ahm1MoJLAEdZ0MVrQgMw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG1xbURIFus5cCWAV+lZPye1rUeWX8y/jZVfmNKN8FMiVq+OZGmauiCwGOtZJ4vI1ktWKB9FHwjnNfSsjDNW7E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:2184:b0:363:8166:ed86 with SMTP id j4-20020a056e02218400b003638166ed86mr4691634ila.8.1706799822397; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 07:03:42 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <39C7327E-5A5A-4074-9EDA-1AC1BBE38A56@punkt.de> In-Reply-To: <39C7327E-5A5A-4074-9EDA-1AC1BBE38A56@punkt.de> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 16:03:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD? To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Cc: FreeBSD virtualization , Mario Marietto , Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001e0bc20610534d3e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TQhxY6SWJz4mDh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --0000000000001e0bc20610534d3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:56=E2=80=AFPM Patrick M. Hausen = wrote: > Hi all, > > > Am 01.02.2024 um 15:47 schrieb Alejandro Imass : > > IMO, the issue is not so much the container tech, we invented that in > the first place. The issue is not having a decent orchestrator / > autoscaling service. > > There's Nomad (https://www.nomadproject.io/) integration > with pot: https://github.com/bsdpot/pot > > The right person to contact is probably Luca (https://github.com/pizzamig > ). > I'll send him a hint at this thread instead of Cc'ing him without asking. > > Thank you! I saw Nomad but I am worried about the move to BUSL. I didn't know it had integration with pot. Shouldn't be that hard to support Bastille, CBSD and IOCage if the latter is still alive. May forking Nomad is an option, they did it for Terraform and pretty quick: https://opentofu.org Best, --=20 Alex > Kind regards, > Patrick > -- > > --0000000000001e0bc20610534d3e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 3:56=E2=80=AFP= M Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de<= /a>> wrote:
Hi all,

> Am 01.02.2024 um 15:47 schrieb Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>:
> IMO, the issue is not so much the container tech, we invented that in = the first place. The issue is not having a decent orchestrator / autoscalin= g service.

There's Nomad (https://www.nomadproject.io/) integration
with pot: https://github.com/bsdpot/pot

The right person to contact is probably Luca (https://github.com/pizzamig= ).
I'll send him a hint at this thread instead of Cc'ing him without a= sking.


Thank you! I saw Nomad but I am worrie= d about the move to BUSL.=C2=A0
I didn't know it had integrat= ion with pot. Shouldn't be that hard to support Bastille, CBSD and IOCa= ge if the latter is still alive.
May forking Nomad is an option, = they did it for Terraform and pretty quick:=C2=A0https://opentofu.org


Bes= t,

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Alex
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Patrick
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