From nobody Mon Feb 20 20:24:42 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PLDRl0z9wz3s7JY for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gold.funkthat.com [IPv6:2001:470:800b::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gate2.funkthat.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PLDRk3DnRz3Nw9 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 31KKOgjY026196 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Feb 2023 12:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 31KKOgO1026195; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 12:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 12:24:42 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: "alex@potemkin.co" Cc: "freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Actual status of Docker (ready for production?) Message-ID: <20230220202442.GN95670@funkthat.com> References: List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: D87A 235F FB71 1F3F 55B7 ED9B D5FF 5A51 C0AC 3D65 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: https://www.funkthat.com/ X-Resume: https://www.funkthat.com/~jmg/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 20 Feb 2023 12:24:43 -0800 (PST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PLDRk3DnRz3Nw9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N alex@potemkin.co wrote this message on Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 08:13 +0000: > ???I'm trying to understand an actual status of Docker / podman to check if I can pick FreeBSD as a platform for the application servers running pre-packaged apps inside Docker. > > ??? > > ???I've tried to google things, but I'm getting controversial information here: > > ???- wiki (https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker) says things doesn't actually works since around 2019-2022 > > ???- ports seems to contain Docker (https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/docker/) and it seems to be regularly updated > > ???- there doesn't seem to be any discussion in this maillist lately, which makes me thing it's either dead or very much alive =) > > ??? > > ???Any real-life Docker usage feedback would be much appreciated! > > ???I'm considering production servers, would love to make it on FreeBSD as opposed to Linux, but if it will be crashing / throwing errors and/or won't just work out of the box, like it does on (Debian/Ubuntu) Linux, I will be in trouble. Significant progress has been made in the last year or two. I don't have any specific guides, but, runj network is working: https://samuel.karp.dev/blog/2022/12/docker-style-networking-for-freebsd-jails-with-runj/ Also, podman is apparently working: https://medium.com/@dfr/oci-containers-for-freebsd-512a6df2bc85 which should get you what you need, ask podman is OCI compliant and mostly compatible w/ docker, see: https://soc.crashed.org/objects/2d51da12-7262-4576-bf53-0ea6a61d0da0 The last message is on the dev version of FreeBSD, I'm not sure if it will run on 13 if you need it to run on a RELEASE, but it likely should work. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."