From nobody Wed Dec 08 20:58:45 2021 X-Original-To: toolchain@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F2418DFBCA for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J8Tzq5Dn1z3mvg; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [87.251.56.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tensor.andric.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: dim) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 762F336A60; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtpclient.apple (longrow.home.andric.com [192.168.0.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B6785E889; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:59:02 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <5CA8FE25-F46A-4902-9FFC-266347C88021@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7AACFE16-C5BB-4251-816E-538C978CAD7F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD s integrated toolchain List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: /stable/12 future Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:58:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: toolchain@freebsd.org To: Jan Beich References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638997143; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=bJIAG2sl6DNq7e2kyLS5RST+8vjRvWlc6fHUZZk6m4U=; b=JlCe46s/K4CH2y9Om3RXzygxTwcKmVWuGIUIHpV9DXVkxEMpMlGwCShZGzD5aSq+DjS+sK yDfgYSkDMaX35DfskvCf9bIcqP1mpGkiosbXGuVX0I6mINv0h4TbXR6EdrJJHF6Nqrq3AU tty/2P0nt1UlZPdj9x7u+sWdFdX1pke21HL8SxnAEYHpAKwTWXqOB/1SAN9tJ5dBjrjWmE olMM6NGQzc1vb/lO71RkFu7USW7CtUP8P601vGWlD/4scfDG7XopBKrERUcZY4WDrjzPeK ExMcwlWBuAtPfbHx38odIBH8n+o/NS2uWtOQO3GhQQ6mva/sILy6f2v/gR5zVA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638997143; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dRbTjF/rC5nIHBotO0t1BJHVWSjgIU8QFZoKD5kzhmlB9Or/nC8l8oC4tV+YV3WLzXSIoe nwo4zy5ARVdMRcVelZ+46L0z6jka3IeW6mYzOfC2KJsyzBwsDUh0bt9IVr3CBsCeBk+wDh yvdiDIqWtWlfigXokM4+Wq8P1e9u7JxV9ynmCZ8zckvRI++QtzHIIKRHYMoYATkvkIe7fH PlFG34Jn+Bl3Y3aGFiyoksO/e0hKaiCi0Ah5gDTuDlqBQxekJ2Vkas/1LKiNTvrdeoaAQM UvTF2lckuM0FoP2Bv7tuqXsj+87C2mvQIQARIo/5dwiC9oFhbV+xT5hZhb+aMQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Apple-Mail=_7AACFE16-C5BB-4251-816E-538C978CAD7F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 8 Dec 2021, at 20:47, Jan Beich wrote: > > 12.3-RELEASE still uses Clang/libc++ 10 from 1 year ago. Do you plan > to update in future as /stable/12 is supported until 2024-06-30? > > libc++ lags behind libstdc++ on C++20 features and sticking to an old > version puts the entire branch on a deathbed. Given drm-kmod on > /stable/12 is stuck with Linux 4.16 era (discontinued after 2018-06-26) > /stable/12 is already mostly dead from desktop POV. > > See also > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215193 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260139` I'd rather merge llvm-project 13.0.0 to stable/12, but I didn't want to do this just before 12.3 wrapped, and it's also a bit of a hassle to figure out all the cherry-pickings... Since stable/12 lags behind on many other build infrastructure improvements, some commits don't apply cleanly. I hope to get some of this done during the coming holidays, if I don't get distracted too much by Quality Time stuff. ;) -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_7AACFE16-C5BB-4251-816E-538C978CAD7F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.2 iF0EARECAB0WIQR6tGLSzjX8bUI5T82wXqMKLiCWowUCYbEchQAKCRCwXqMKLiCW o9ZKAKDr2LQ+Z/NGJg4a2yNjn60qbrWBGACg8aDqca5tDvUa1O3rV3QhcCWnnvk= =JmA/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_7AACFE16-C5BB-4251-816E-538C978CAD7F--