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This is new. >> >> # zfs --version >> zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> >> (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> ?!!) >> >> This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on >> a non-boot virtual disk. >> >> "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done this (have >> never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm >> absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything. >> >> I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September >> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.html >> that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boot/lua files" >> but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure >> as the host. >> >> What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this context? >> > > In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix in a pX > for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It's > just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you hadn't actually > updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installed from FreeBSD 11 > and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It should be in the > release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for post release > revision is murky at best. Why is there no errata entry for it? > The host vs guest issue you highlighted is a different thing and applies > only to bhyve. > > Warner > >> >