From nobody Fri Sep 06 05:40:09 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X0Q6k01rgz5W0LZ for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2024 05:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fm-134872-202409060540091a364942c1d70916e6-x5m11q@rts-flowmailer.siemens.com) Received: from mta-65-226.siemens.flowmailer.net (mta-65-226.siemens.flowmailer.net [185.136.65.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X0Q6j4Lzfz42Z4 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2024 05:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fm-134872-202409060540091a364942c1d70916e6-x5m11q@rts-flowmailer.siemens.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mta-65-226.siemens.flowmailer.net with ESMTPSA id 202409060540091a364942c1d70916e6 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:40:10 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=fm1; d=siemens.com; i=Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Cc:References:In-Reply-To; bh=DlvSiZCqAIP+xRx5e1aqJfYO80AUNvY2D1YufX4o/ag=; b=fYUE/+dzz+sGoMClP6JBW1wZPCQgMxpB+9/bcrmxrksozKiCOZFHKdJwTDWcAEl+6JJ3vi g/akqy5ExZrNy6jvBjTFKsA+//wfR+a+ikmSs0DsFSROXJzhR/LfPE8LZKCQUhODIcNHOrZu 5i9HSmpkADSz/PvEf5KLEx96pNo7+E+lv/IxU0iBKxfTZOyMZHny7X+5eLl3nInoPmrEGnZy ueVtJEoVFSy/ZtJffU+Tc4YPqxzH8HLmyb4sJAcIONjuCNULnrq3ahOqWUuV9/Ls8VCQhZ7z 450ZhtOQTtvLnwYZOR83JvPBp+TwNAVmTsxfnU2NAcLjZlin55pdmm6g==; Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 07:40:09 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Ed Maste Cc: Mark Johnston , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com Subject: Re: removing the agp(4) driver Message-ID: References: List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: document_confidentiality: Restricted X-Flowmailer-Platform: Siemens Feedback-ID: 519:519-134872:519-21489:flowmailer X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:50018, ipnet:185.136.65.0/24, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X0Q6j4Lzfz42Z4 On Thu, 05-Sep-2024 at 12:34:20 -0400, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sept 2024 at 09:43, Mark Johnston wrote: > > > > I'd like to propose removing the agp(4) driver in FreeBSD 15.0. > > It looks like there are some recent NYC*BUG dmesgd submissions showing > currently supported versions of FreeBSD running on agp hardware. Most > are i386 but there's at least one amd64 case. > > Despite that I think it makes sense to remove agp for FreeBSD 15. The > hardware was already being phased out of mainstream systems two > decades ago and is now obsolete. I don't imagine the development > effort to move the driver out from Giant is worth the cost and folks > with old hardware who need agp graphics can continue to use FreeBSD > 14.x. It's supported through 2028. Hmm, probably I am missing something but I tried a kernel without agp and i915kms.ko complained with: KLD i915kms.ko: depends on agp - not available or version mismatch I recompiled drm-61-kmod but this didn't change anything. This is on 14.1-STABLE / amd64 (25 machines, some only 3-4 years old).