From nobody Thu Sep 05 19:16:26 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X08H63CNVz5Th5T for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2024 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@xyinn.org) Received: from mail-4323.proton.ch (mail-4323.proton.ch [185.70.43.23]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X08H60yGzz4SC6 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2024 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@xyinn.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xyinn.org; s=protonmail; t=1725563790; x=1725822990; bh=HNEwxj7JaRxOC5PBBhtPoTmF/CwwPMps8WiZOYizMJA=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=lQytJg/L5bhyVrTFMW20o0f5NnpSre6ha0QMMIkhKygnpz3MfE3Tm81WyucpEr3S+ /WHOaWplc0zWxVaJOP9irvXO/hI5YoWbt77ooH75huuJDQSqteLfA7pIGXtpRxrRC7 Tpj8eCXCmqykhlmQ50Br/vRbpC5J9bD5ECyChzv6qaQZMAmqbg3m+dRtKk5NomzUS6 YSe3nB6VqpOJsJS6ig6Xm52obU18UMGwvgm8Fg/kiCQqt6MeZ0qjCfZGFLwGpnDwJ8 qPla9nVE58h9S44KiU9cKpeI7aWLJCK6B8DzXQpfAOhd6CAJD4DFzK3WPlT6rZTLSe moywV3JRZJJoQ== Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 19:16:26 +0000 To: "emaste@freebsd.org" , "markj@freebsd.org" From: Jonathan Vasquez Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: removing the agp(4) driver Message-ID: <3dO87b-7E7u_V8KsAidP23BE_NgW9C5EtUR-4fTC-3LHYjY-iI8MdICh5haCtJTKMlcuDkkRvSjgQ-P_hrgxEqqK7IR8C2d05lSGf8PYmnU=@xyinn.org> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 12351801:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: a4522ac3fe0a9ae5ffd10da917056de95b9a09e7 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.43.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X08H60yGzz4SC6 I suppose removing this architecture would be in line with FreeBSD's recent= ly stated goals of removing 32 bit x86 support, and I suppose there would b= e other architectures that would slowly be deprecated and removed. Jonathan Vasquez PGP: 34DA 858C 1447 509E C77A D49F FB85 90B7 C4CA 5279 Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email Sent from Proton Mail Android -------- Original Message -------- On 9/5/24 12:34, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sept 2024 at 09:43, Mark Johnston wrote: > > > > I'd like to propose removing the agp(4) driver in FreeBSD 15.0. > =20 > It looks like there are some recent NYC*BUG dmesgd submissions showing > currently supported versions of FreeBSD running on agp hardware. Most > are i386 but there's at least one amd64 case. > =20 > Despite that I think it makes sense to remove agp for FreeBSD 15. The > hardware was already being phased out of mainstream systems two > decades ago and is now obsolete. I don't imagine the development > effort to move the driver out from Giant is worth the cost and folks > with old hardware who need agp graphics can continue to use FreeBSD > 14.x. It's supported through 2028. > =20 >