Re: Firefox and Thunderbird freeze system causing a reboot

Hello, curious situation with Mozilla?  I am not developing or debugging at
the moment but merely just using. Last week i updated from FreeBSD13.1 to
13.4. Everything working in 13.1 but my FireFox so outdated it was being
rejected. After installing everything from packaging and getting Xorg
working everything seemed fine. XFCE installed and ran with a few tweaks.
Both FF and Thunderbird would not start unless safe mode was invoked. I
disabled composting in both and they start and work perfectly sans
acceleration. So after checking around i find numerous posts about failing
graphics stacks not being able to connect. This may not affect u but it is
definitely a thing.
Is this the end of Xorg and should we be using wayland?
Rick

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024, 5:58 PM Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 11/7/24 14:19, Philipp Ost wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a curious situation with my system since updating to 14.2-STABLE
> on
> > Tuesday, 5.11.'24: both Firefox and Thunderbird cause the system to
> freeze
> > which then triggers and automatic reboot. This doesn't happen
> immediately,
> > though. It takes at most 2:15 minutes until this freeze and reboot cycle
> > happens. No user-interaction is taking place during that time.
> >
> > The machine is running FreeBSD 14.2-STABLE stable/14-n269500-
> > cdffbea57c0d amd64.
> > Firefox is at version firefox-132.0.1_2,2 and Thunderbird at
> > thunderbird-128.4.1_1.
> >
> > Other gtk3-based programs do not show this behaviour, i.e., Inkscape,
> > Darktable, GIMP, EOG, Filezilla, Gnumeric.
> >
> > I (re-)built both Firefox and Thunderbird with debugging symbols. Console
> > output of both Firefox and Thunderbird (when being started from an xterm)
> > can be found here:
> > philippost.de/firefox-debug-console-output
> > philippost.de/thunderbird-debug-console-output
> >
> > In addition, I tried running them under truss(1), but from skimming
> through
> > both logs nothing immediately stood out at what could cause this.
> >
> > Also, there's nothing to be found in the logs at all.
> >
> > Did anyone else observed this? How do I go about debugging this?
> >
> > I am at a loss at how to proceed and appreaciate any help in trying to
> > figure this out.
>
> I use both firefox and thunderbird pretty heavily on my workstation
> (14.1) and laptop (current) and have not had any issues.  a couple
> thoughts though to help you debug this:
>
> 1. maybe run a memory test and check the SMART status of your disk(s).
> i've seen behavior like this with flaky hardware in the past, and both
> of those apps are extremely memory hungry
>
> 2. are you getting core's after rebuilding debug builds?  if so what
> does backtrace show?
>
> 3. is this a low memory system?  when i was debugging a memory leak in
> firefox a while ago i wrote a wrapper that invoked it via limits(1).
>
>
> -pete
>
> --
> Pete Wright
> pete@nomadlogic.org
>
>
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