From nobody Thu Dec 05 22:42:47 2024 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Y48YM0hcDz5fpDM for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 22:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Received: from mail.adebahr.de (mail.adebahr.de [IPv6:2a05:901:1:0:5054:ff:fea7:cd5a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.adebahr.de", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Y48YK5Kbxz4gWq for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smo.de header.s=mail header.b=NWCzG2f1; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pj@smo.de designates 2a05:901:1:0:5054:ff:fea7:cd5a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pj@smo.de; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=smo.de Received: from [192.168.153.34] (pd9515bba.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.91.186]) by mail.adebahr.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DC46686B4; Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:42:48 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smo.de; s=mail; t=1733438568; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lf379X1YgZfds89ASBh+mzKyQsDnEYxJW15R2ccEdPo=; b=NWCzG2f1MWj0nuqP2MYqKQ5YHZ/SNBMmQzuWRxKQAi/182bRoJENhHeIT5rMbrgmWjZPoq nM0OpM++uSruceeCDL+9Bl/CTs8Ke1JKizibHwCH2dobB1uD8O/UvoicswFGw95Tua2SOP DdlJggaAbnkN4x1DtkDMPvsK6IajRzcOV3wFSPKiSr93GXF/PivR4I+4OGZKzZkYLiAyVY IMqoz5rIj5ksFnr1ZccODo73uBrRX0tL9RF012ajRO02DyuBvdS9t7imO54dFAkeEgBebt 9GOcMic/sPeXw9PB20plTXcy/J4s/8xwmsq9JekDJ82kpOeX/OwKHe4tyq5p3A== Message-ID: <6e1c29e0-0cbb-4701-820e-375bf2a6d313@smo.de> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 23:42:47 +0100 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Firefox and Thunderbird freeze system causing a reboot To: Pete Wright , stable@freebsd.org References: <087cf5ee-186a-41ee-93ed-154588964d41@smo.de> <58157db8-7af9-41cd-9fa1-5f9677878f89@nomadlogic.org> From: Philipp Ost In-Reply-To: <58157db8-7af9-41cd-9fa1-5f9677878f89@nomadlogic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[smo.de,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smo.de:s=mail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:212341, ipnet:2a05:900::/29, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smo.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Y48YK5Kbxz4gWq X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi Pete, thanks for your thoughts on this. Sorry for the late reply, real life got in the way... Am 07.11.2024 um 23:57 schrieb Pete Wright: > I use both firefox and thunderbird pretty heavily on my workstation > (14.1) and laptop (current) and have not had any issues.  a couple > thoughts though to help you debug this: > > 1. maybe run a memory test and check the SMART status of your disk(s). > i've seen behavior like this with flaky hardware in the past, and both > of those apps are extremely memory hungry SMART data showed no errors of any kind. I also ran memtest for several passes and everything was good on that front as well. > 2. are you getting core's after rebuilding debug builds?  if so what > does backtrace show? There were no core files. > 3. is this a low memory system?  when i was debugging a memory leak in > firefox a while ago i wrote a wrapper that invoked it via limits(1). The machine had 32GB of memory installed, which should have been enough. After the machine started complaining about changes to BIOS settings, I decided to go ahead an replace it. 12 years was a good run. ;-) Best Philipp