From nobody Thu Nov 16 22:52:46 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SWb0L0Nfqz51Bcb; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SWb0K6xv3z4dHC; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1700175170; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=0bxwCocVwBUbhsOH1iGGqsBO/61zQFJIHWKZoYNiJDc=; b=TtLUV4VzKktLSSPw8n+EohxuaAwmbs/T5U2PZcbo1X/L39wIvpy/vnOoKKB7IB//5VPlLs 2EApXphITJSQQfAwdSCFkgPtWeUYzTeEn4e41JII7hOiGvJaHrMnwCIIQRSv81QkwLj2/G djoYlfIZpjGei/TeFEicof2EUr9yz2HZ/kS03Qm1QK94AadZHKrveqeJRLsS3TW6MStoXd KNBibaXk5aYwSr8+VQtk1ED3Jtc9hHZ4mSaNobOPSJmVzyBxGIaqGN7MTYy1bsMjHuBT7l QYqRrzy62e+YOWQ8Vi52OeqtkF8N/TSM0CgG813t85gMPvgk2iU3WUMwRvfs+Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1700175170; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=0bxwCocVwBUbhsOH1iGGqsBO/61zQFJIHWKZoYNiJDc=; b=vlk5l/qQb8DPok1IkbpE9paKGgI8+Cl2FaYZ3gjPCwGpkzUB4ZZVIqS8wV+KP87WMkhqnD l/56+AZQhiM4bxYqqnAGwEYKvcq/7ow7lxc8mGPlx/lT+/NksV8cwcTht3540XfbItLiXs Ntka2Zm/LkzdfU5DsUovVBuHZC00YfZ8YHI+XqAtTvUG2nu8j/WbkgshohFQo0iFQwXBCq 3YGVdxsgNeMHa8x5JWRHMU8xN44zqk02TSmsvNQNMV4dR6RWX1mDQ5C6s1k63naQezZdqe LdSBZ/5u/hVlKTNDyKYWLAoniGnARlfpInCtMFFoH910UJ2cmYcNCoWfUalzaA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1700175170; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=xpV2sV1GwoHPegnX0pLR9llLM0er8n8OKSTtZ+q8733FKPcDA+VGyidwKlIyD3h9AbpaYB JvAj9u4RUOd6lqV7sTmaKR0kvVmBvLLFzY6LgM64Dwy2y/UIplmrWkSTcexlsacHU4wGv2 4noZGpjxqo4jB/COq7jgDEzixf8pKoGYSgRvZLeTpOq8UQJ+S5UrYpribKwai0dHvXAD20 5kH/OgaZTQlGxeyF/8rmUb0+xKR/AV5C08TYB6l+2XJDCzMvp9sE6O4AonGY7MTMn90/vB A1Q2iU2AHSjU5NiasIwqLTv+GM/NEQOTOrPPsmwx3F8sJLkDMLvQReaYVLq9KA== Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F437193C1; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:52:46 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Jamie Landeg-Jones Cc: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca, re@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule Message-ID: <20231116225246.GQ1307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20231114203654.GB52320@FreeBSD.org> <20231115022701.GM1307@FreeBSD.org> <202311162122.3AGLMqsN086011@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UI7gKp310iCrxvPC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202311162122.3AGLMqsN086011@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> --UI7gKp310iCrxvPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 09:22:52PM +0000, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > > but"s. >=20 > Foe a recent new build, I just went to the ftp site to grab the latest rc, > only to see 14.0-release there, so I grabbed and installed that, many > hours before your original mail went out. >=20 > No biggy, I generally track stable, but does this mean we can't rely > on the download sites without checking out the lists first? It's not > like I was plaing sneaky by doing "guess the URL" or anything like that. >=20 No. It merely suggests the release is not officially official yet. 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