From nobody Wed Jun 22 06:44:41 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-security@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B2A86FEB5; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LSYlb1hQbz3nT4; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id eq6so15142912edb.6; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:44:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=P5ivtUA9TcR1fDakyTrQLOxD+wKLUKAlO2QGmm83hpI=; b=BLRi1ypaRjCWb1JS3Nb13jEy702/7MaDOApc/Rc68CQdtHSEwgoFtuE3/dSjV5C0zj 5a32F+o4wQd0HYu3rJn4qvMkaqI743nYrY7eLtGZ2FumGNxPzFJL4uhzgrZmK2yO1f0z nWG0fEfmhbPZHkB7ZV/wK98J6WUsUcS+totgSoYZoVuKdzVPhrmP1+UOhWN9UJaieYPr +t47m76Cj/JwCzWbHCMpGsgtLEt7tA8PD0/O8B483QMTCsKk8xbfpuSUi7lkVHOmmnt9 mBs5J4oe844IQKPs94igvc8dxvxe2vfY3wJp+GmmSYM1ZsusCi/f57WAX6Eufr96WcIq G12Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=P5ivtUA9TcR1fDakyTrQLOxD+wKLUKAlO2QGmm83hpI=; b=yJ2oKLf4J7B52XeoW7izHIIXEBcN2bfIMn0EIUli7Ay2laCrqlc8twEKzhXs5jpvxQ gdPkuQUhN4fJWwLPHVuF9RTV0/aVONyoVlq3nIqUzsRtgOWPH2WvAzuiiUOxrWm0LJL+ H76cQd5YAcLP5LwxUbVtuSmyqpIS6Ef1E6A5Tbw4n68hijhj5q2QUFqAyNp81GWmjubP IPHnNJaMoVovIUHU++b8pRZ2un5bx0O6YxUxVBsofKcWIPoulHpXWKkn4TGKf6I9xGLd CER4BhagaXj67L8sVWdF/dFxIs41icBwg4bZfenETvmtcTgl9SN1M/xqRM9l79onAuBz cQgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora95zU0z1DyhNAsR/H6ci9ftS4DInRQ0kF8fO1+Qf0n4sDoMcQQx arCOJc6cdNwS3XSNasfOmW8B4sQj61EZZ4j4l5HOOBs+KRBMSK8wxLU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vRci9PhbiLKftjbiFsc+RLWGOaT+zxL2Ys+uAF9XcfxTWqW5PcdvJ2CoUji8K3xPv8gcKowhkDQQ7zoRkGxSc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:42d5:b0:433:1727:b31c with SMTP id i21-20020a05640242d500b004331727b31cmr2322716edc.9.1655880281837; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:44:41 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Security issues List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-security List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab4:a183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:44:41 -0700 (PDT) From: grarpamp Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 02:44:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: CPU "Bugs" Hardly Considerable As Inspectably Innocent [Re: Intel/AMD CVE's] To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LSYlb1hQbz3nT4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=BLRi1ypa; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.895]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::52d:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-security,freebsd-questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N >> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/software-security-guidance/technical-documentation/processor-mmio-stale-data-vulnerabilities.html > Intel ... their never-ending failure to design or implement https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2016/05/11/inside-israels-secret-startup-machine/ https://techcrunch.com/2015/03/20/from-the-8200-to-silicon-valley Never fail the chance that NSA GCHQ CIA FSB Mossad/MID etc may consider the inexplicably continuing long history of "bugs" as friendly and conveniently embedded features, partnerships if you will... And that you can't escape that, nor have anything other than a black box, by continuing to foolishly rely on either of those Govt Corp... TOP-SECRET and Corporations have sordid opaque history of snakeoil, malware, spyware, suspect changes, etc. You can't see inside it, you cannot trust it. Abandon those old invisible models and sketchy indoctrination programs, reboot your brains to the open, connect the webcam to the microscope and push it at least 10x closer for all to see, do something different, and profit, ftw... #OpenFabs , #OpenHW , #OpenAudit , #FormalVerification , #CryptoCrowdFunding , #OpenTrust Have fun :)