From nobody Sat Sep 28 16:47:45 2024 X-Original-To: scsi@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XGCtn42WHz5XZGs for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XGCtn2BHVz4pDC for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1727542065; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=/0Uz3OyqroXNMcYdoZEixY9fNR+tGkSNFk86tnPGJ+E=; b=vVix2mU1Qa7x5N2zpHWOdjWNMUQEFUip1YMyeeVX6h0C+DMkAYU64l0BAxJahYhzwIsGfa lXbUJgIKlEKKkFm3dyrusK0VOp55rxY0heCUS/1NwvBbSB3NqbNy4tk9vGL33jn4rZOVsO p3zw/E9Rjv0ZcfED3J+YYHd2maoeGfZKOLR9NZngrKWnD/l/rcMdeijG6U+YlUCugk/dfp J0Jw3uKNrO43k4oLZBK0CHDn3BFfjqY6O5257F1vV6jUgnRIjre1tdBLRvygJ/AGKDpFsV Zqgpb6ueoP1N5KZ0Il/BtQfctGCC+pEi5SwSVMtRKrfk2w++rHnKkM3tE8TAAw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1727542065; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VPQpkCcpf3qc61r8q13q7MpY8d+2ncys2+A/tNWRydRFFdnjGFHWIruEj6DpNv+aGYGYb/ EQi/RtruLwXasquwCyzCvEohMJBuSQ4AI2EFg9QYtVbfGN+sovFRMQco2VpYlzfqovLP4w Omsg658jWuZT8VS80V8mQcmUveMaOjNVxGdOnL1Zi0ketNJi38GH5yLNNyO/flWULCGn5h Tk/7Q4/pHdqEGO3Jv1KTctlHmCbpz4jzHNWcNRfoxamCO9a1bUi1KWaX9WkPlmyM64RVA/ BOCXxTPG7acO2J1+6JlxhR8OlOEPKMwoTJ69D9vfYuNexyoMo6e6mM0KfLZj6A== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XGCtn1Ng2zYFw for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 48SGlj5e087048 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 48SGlj6V087047 for scsi@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 202712] [cam] [ata] System doesn't recognize older hdd after boot Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 16:47:45 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 11.2-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: regression X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: imp@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Not A Bug X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status cc resolution Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-scsi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D202712 Warner Losh changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Open |Closed CC| |imp@FreeBSD.org Resolution|--- |Not A Bug --- Comment #42 from Warner Losh --- CHS disks are no longer supported. They haven't been since FreeBSD 9 in the default kernel. They are too old, much like NE2000 or AHA-1542 controllers. We've grown past this. In addition, Scott outlined a perfectly reasonable path forward for people = to add support for CHS drives within the CAM framework to allow PATA to be extended back to such ancient drives. In the 5 years since then, nobody has followed up that I've seen on that path forward (nor even a kludgy ifdef so= up glommed onto the current ata XPT). The developer interests simply are not there, and are not likely to be there since these old hard drives are now 5 years older than before and increasingly unlikely to be relevant to more th= an a tiny handful of people. It's unfortunate that we have to drop support for older hardware, but as Sc= ott pointed out in his reply, the hardware is hard to buy (though it's possible with some care), hard to test (since the PATA controllers needed generally = are on hardware that we've been moving to remove), and code that's not testable= / tested by even a small fraction of our users is at risk of introduced bugs. For all these reasons, I'm closing this. The project isn't going to do this given the current trajectories. If someone shows up with a CAM redo like Sc= ott suggested, we might consider it, but we might equally just give it a pass (= it would depend on who, how long they will be around, etc). The return on investment for project resources is too low on this one unless there's real= ly extraordinary circumstances around the submission (like someone did it to l= earn CAM, did a great job and is submitting fixes for lots of other CAM bugs). --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=