From nobody Wed Oct 30 05:59:34 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Xdc0M5C7bz5bjQX for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2024 05:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaroslaw.mashko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com (mail-pf1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Xdc0M0KBPz4t4G for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2024 05:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaroslaw.mashko@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-71ea2643545so5127588b3a.3 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1730267986; x=1730872786; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=49KKHtVWSvpxFjKLWYRJtoVifvx0mL8kvEV/6KfyJv4=; b=NVjprpD340Ar1+wmmEkXJnWn/PMUUBcIMs8ipgBlaaij6u0eNVSvHyefrFBaVzAZTD S0q9utKt3AOw+xMfXP9Wb6MbYyLX3BTUBIlv7NEa5wFmPGs6su/KPgiR8breDL2OjImk zrpdoUwZxBqFYVvzMPvFLE+OgoIVa5z09shMU7mI/b2Q3sZEbPKZ2m5KXvywU5II+4UX L4gXmCFrXD+NzRJTnllNEqD7XbUX8DxfDfGNTsviwoEbrMp4Qx7sc7j1OdpioJ7Mj+6O ohJcm+ZC7+6kRkD3Y4fHHW9rer1bZbHfVrq+NBHFd/XL0TE7K5hWH2GqOvetgbqh6ONc 3itA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1730267986; x=1730872786; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=49KKHtVWSvpxFjKLWYRJtoVifvx0mL8kvEV/6KfyJv4=; b=HM5IyABgpenmSaHnXST6nBRC9kPD503S3w2gfK8SiES0kdsYsp/0Gf+iKggTufIB0D qeaW8fziL3I+2GKroxb1J0xkwhW8/g9W4xipCH6p7KE0+CYW92juWmxW9HmdN372WEtz 9+HK+2sasQb7haI5t0lmYUw3HOr2PoaDg7V53qoaZXCoEKoAFPY18JZn0FmEEz31aM8J VKBdEq+EtvCTEHeKgnRbfMX747xf1SNGtWWbJSbaKaRvddWTN8I+cwxIMs7D7xSPQvpF JbiblL/t92PM9XJ/6f1Zg0CFuwiNwuV+bC2YGp+2dqObop0ZgbU1adaa4rKYQNgSc5bR PRTw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWm5UuuOPPRTJTiQmpNgntGnienSuiE1wUrNlf0pFJgRb6kS+QGIr2VcSukxmFW7b4E4ie+0s7iVvPaU3PxbzI3pA==@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzGTlf534bgkXnKjH3MTdm5UBOeTiPWDYqmsrDSJbLFVhhL4mHc 92xmjNV4Skv6qZ9YIHGAfwY1Gx+vJWmvYMbWRa3+C7e7/DwaLZfpR7TZuNI+aaJ5IbuRp3cTO1B SGhpXEq/kKhXLrZn0PV5YGjO9jpY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFiJvTE8GAx/X0D5Lomqy2cCXDZktQQNQOFC3AoDFgCe7KLNo6S9GS/fqprzwSsaOvaw/PU7BCDo1CAcw30gZY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:7a11:b0:1d9:c753:6bad with SMTP id adf61e73a8af0-1d9c7536c47mr9971144637.10.1730267985527; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?0K/RgNC+0YHQu9Cw0LIg0JzQsNGI0LrQvg==?= Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 07:59:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Seeking actual FreeBSD network expert for some freelance hours To: Paul Procacci Cc: Aryeh Friedman , Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a4cb260625ab682d" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Xdc0M0KBPz4t4G X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --000000000000a4cb260625ab682d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that is freeBSD spirit! keep up with this view on things, Paul. =D1=81=D1=80, 30 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2024 =D0=B3., 02:37 Paul Procacci : > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > > > > Making some comments on this from the point of view as professional > > freelancer (I am not qualified directly for the job posting unless you > > count the fact I have made a cloud platform based on bhyve [but not > > jails]): Besides I have sensory issues with Zoom (one of the worst > > implementations of streaming media in history). > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:50=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Imass > wrote: > > > > > > Hi there! > > > > > > Looking for a FreeBSD network expert with experience in bridging, VNE= T > jails and bhyve networking as well as PF and optionally CARP. It's just a > few hours and we cannot give you access to the servers. Basically it woul= d > be a Zoom-based consultancy by the hour where you help us solve some > specific issues related to the technologies mentioned above. > > > > > > Conditions: > > > > > > Mutual NDA and simple contract. > > > > In any freelance marketplace like UpWork (formerly eLance) this would > > be a red flag (having to sign a NDA before even being told in the most > > general sense who the client is and what their goals are... surely > > this would not violate anything that is legitimately NDA'able) > > > > > Actual experience and skills in: > > > > > > Bridging > > > VNET Jails > > > bhyve networking > > > PF > > > Optionally: CARP > > > > > > Spoken English Fluency > > > > > > We can pay via Wise, PayPal or bank Wire. > > > > Not using an escrow service is a true red flag. > > > > > > > > Please refrain from applying if you don't have this specific skill > set. If within the first hour we determine you do not possess the skills, > the contract will be unilaterally terminated with no payment. > > > > Any work done conditionally is a complete and total red flag and > > against the TOS of most job listing sites. > > > > In case you're curious here are the other red flags any professional > > freelancer would look for: > > > > 1. Any promise of future work in return for a break on this job > > 2. Any attempt to make you a co-founder instead of what really are (a > > freelancer) > > 3. Wants to pay or contact you off elance before the terms are agreed > > on (against official elance policy) > > 4. Ask for any sort of free work before escrow is put up > > 5. Refuse to agree to our terms sheet (with any modifications needed > > to address the unique intellectual property requirements of each > > project) > > 6. Complete inability to give a clear statement of what they want you t= o > do > > 7. Any client who refuses to honor our no change in project scope term > > 8. Demand for source code before escrow release > > 9. Anyone who says that wants anyone from a certain geographic region > > (usually ones well known for low pay) unless they are in that area and > > require in person meetings > > 10. Demands a NDA before even telling the 25 words or less description > > of the project in general terms > > 11. Asks to do payment outside of elance > > 12. Anyone who does not want to use the private message board > > exclusively (the only thing elance dispute resolution looks at [btw > > they find for the client far too often IMO]) > > 13. Someone who has not even bothered to have elance verify their > > credit card as being a valid form of payment to fund escrow with > > 14. Anyone who asks you to use some bizarre key phrase in your bid as > > a type of captcha > > > > -- > > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > Red Flag this, red flag that ... blah blah blah. > Mr. Imass's needed technical information is solved .. all free of > charge oer zoom .... and now I have a new friend. > He just owes me a beer. ;) > > ~Paul > -- > __________________ > > :(){ :|:& };: > > --000000000000a4cb260625ab682d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

that is freeBSD spirit! keep up with this view on things, Pa= ul.


=D1=81= =D1=80, 30 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2024 =D0=B3., 02:37 Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Fr= iedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Making some comments on this from the point of view as professional > freelancer (I am not qualified directly for the job posting unless you=
> count the fact I have made a cloud platform based on bhyve [but not > jails]):=C2=A0 =C2=A0Besides I have sensory issues with Zoom (one of t= he worst
> implementations of streaming media in history).
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:50=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Imass <aimass@ya= barana.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> >
> > Looking for a FreeBSD network expert with experience in bridging,= VNET jails and bhyve networking as well as PF and optionally CARP. It'= s just a few hours and we cannot give you access to the servers. Basically = it would be a Zoom-based consultancy by the hour where you help us solve so= me specific issues related to the technologies mentioned above.
> >
> > Conditions:
> >
> > Mutual NDA and simple contract.
>
> In any freelance marketplace like UpWork (formerly eLance) this would<= br> > be a red flag (having to sign a NDA before even being told in the most=
> general sense who the client is and what their goals are... surely
> this would not violate anything that is legitimately NDA'able)
>
> > Actual experience and skills in:
> >
> > Bridging
> > VNET Jails
> > bhyve networking
> > PF
> > Optionally: CARP
> >
> > Spoken English Fluency
> >
> > We can pay via Wise, PayPal or bank Wire.
>
> Not using an escrow service is a true red flag.
>
> >
> > Please refrain from applying if you don't have this specific = skill set. If within the first hour we determine you do not possess the ski= lls, the contract will be unilaterally terminated with no payment.
>
> Any work done conditionally is a complete and total red flag and
> against the TOS of most job listing sites.
>
> In case you're curious here are the other red flags any profession= al
> freelancer would look for:
>
> 1. Any promise of future work in return for a break on this job
> 2. Any attempt to make you a co-founder instead of what really are (a<= br> > freelancer)
> 3. Wants to pay or contact you off elance before the terms are agreed<= br> > on (against official elance policy)
> 4. Ask for any sort of free work before escrow is put up
> 5. Refuse to agree to our terms sheet (with any modifications needed > to address the unique intellectual property requirements of each
> project)
> 6. Complete inability to give a clear statement of what they want you = to do
> 7. Any client who refuses to honor our no change in project scope term=
> 8. Demand for source code before escrow release
> 9. Anyone who says that wants anyone from a certain geographic region<= br> > (usually ones well known for low pay) unless they are in that area and=
> require in person meetings
> 10. Demands a NDA before even telling the 25 words or less description=
> of the project in general terms
> 11. Asks to do payment outside of elance
> 12. Anyone who does not want to use the private message board
> exclusively (the only thing elance dispute resolution looks at [btw > they find for the client far too often IMO])
> 13. Someone who has not even bothered to have elance verify their
> credit card as being a valid form of payment to fund escrow with
> 14. Anyone who asks you to use some bizarre key phrase in your bid as<= br> > a type of captcha
>
> --
> Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.= org
>

Red Flag this, red flag that ... blah blah blah.
Mr. Imass's needed technical information is solved .. all free of
charge oer zoom .... and now I have a new friend.
He just owes me a beer.=C2=A0 ;)

~Paul
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__________________

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