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Guilmette wrote: >> Anyway, one of the drives I've got that I am hoping to dispense with >> soon is an older model WD "Passport" external 4TB USB3 drive.=C2=A0 >> Optimally, I'd like to simply perform [snip] > > Hi, > > Since I use Linux daily and FreeBSD only rarely, I do not know the > programmes that FreeBSD offers for this purpose, but I fear that there > will only be insignificant differences in this area. > > Under Linux it is, apart from allegedly existing exceptions, not > possible to access an underlying, mostly SATA drive via the USB > controller. > > From off-list correspondence, I know with absolute certainty that the > joys of normal operation with drives in USB enclosures are actually > always the plague, no matter which OS you use. > > I use a specific enclosure from a specific company, whose controller h= as > firmware that causes me no problems in normal operation. I assemble > these things myself. > > If you don't have an alternative connection to the USB port and the ca= se > can't be opened, then the desired commands will most likely not get > through to the drive. > > Regards, > Ralf > > Translated with DeepL.com (free version) hdparm is the required program on both Linux and *BSD. The procedure is= set drive security password and then issue Secure Erase. =E2=80=94 Robert