From nobody Fri Oct 11 09:46:29 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XQ1wt6g36z5YcJ8 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XQ1ws3JD6z49W3 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=WepxVV5U; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lumiwa@dismail.de designates 78.46.223.134 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lumiwa@dismail.de; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 70a6d843 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:46:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20190914; bh=n2UFMjn1 nRVO4lHpsW7dpV75JtBdsb682PFDo9jwk4I=; b=WepxVV5U/nMyfd9lxmlsxQSN T9Lc82Es/Px869JqLNY5rsYrqbCFXxFOmX94jYg9mvfEGZWvP4BsHHEclnDRT7VG UxCYp6iajdr1wd38XLaG1r2JXTfQT7aHmBlw+N1/dR32rZATcb9mwPsRtVLPbPTd Inv8knN41S7rfmAF2O0iYtSH0wExw7SqtcBYgI1n/jCmL54q+ELBPvHF8MRVi3Ut 0sX40NkWu+vcjPAbT7JtOqpPcJoDGZRSPEyV+bUE5pvz6XaztnOZJmUz1/pjcpZV uJ4BYloiio61nYePLMTILKpj9k8dFXX5ReO0M2Qar5UW/dYrszYroHEpC90fag== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c4465533 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9fe826fe for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3e83169a (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 05:46:29 -0400 From: LuMiWa To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD releases Message-ID: <20241011054629.7be5def2@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20241009063710.09572e05@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.21.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.09 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.46.223.134:from]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XQ1ws3JD6z49W3 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:09:41 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 3:37=E2=80=AFAM LuMiWa wrote: >=20 > > Hi! > > > > As a binary packages user I have one question, please. > > For example: > > releng/14.1 14.1-RELEASE June 4, 2024 > > expected eol March 31, 2025 > > > > This mean that are all packages built on version 14.0 for six > > months. This mean if we want applications built for 14.1 we need to > > use ports, special for apps like drm-kmod and more and build by > > ourselves. Am I wright? > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > =E2=80=9CI hate books; they only teach us to talk about things we know > > nothing about.=E2=80=9D > > > > =E2=80=95 Jean-Jacques Rousseau > > > > Yes. As long as 14.0 was supported, ports are built on 14.0. Now > > that 14.0 > is EOL, as of October 1, ports are built on 14.1. There SHOULD be no > problem in running 14.0 packages on 14.1 as the user space ABI is > guaranteed to not change. The notable exception is ports that provide > kernel modules. While most work as FreeBSD tries to keep the ABI > consistent, it is not guaranteed. Notably, the drm-*kmod packages > need to be built from the port with the kernel sources matching the > kernel sources on the build machine. This has also happened with the > virtualbox kmod and probably others. >=20 > For multiple systems running hte same kernel, the port may be built > once, a package built and copied to other systems. >=20 >=20 Thank you very much. When I used ports I never had a problem but when I switched to packages problems start showing... --=20 =E2=80=9CI hate books; they only teach us to talk about things we know noth= ing about.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Jean-Jacques Rousseau=20