From nobody Sun Nov 24 17:32:04 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XxG9t4fK5z5fPVn for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.eskello@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x542.google.com (mail-ed1-x542.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::542]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XxG9s5vLXz4MR7 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 17:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.eskello@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=CgnORU0x; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paul.eskello@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::542 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paul.eskello@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-x542.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5cfadf851e2so4922358a12.2 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:32:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732469536; x=1733074336; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QHj5cgxeFyozZ+shTLFK1vIFuERJW02myfAiQE/7NfA=; b=CgnORU0xO5ZifPJZORW5oaDzuoim0JtM5hvNzkRtLik7gl8LpoDWJfInej4J0iC/3l Xo/FXfupHAU0HAkyyPru5HTGmGUFqBcFMQw6lmBSISepE5I/7Fr5b1Zyv4tvUj3l2U6d eOIVUTAYTw7GidiFVo/fNMq6r9fKiNxXasSBdesdwRo4VNKtRKx2StiUlCmqfDMPJpyg GNGSoG0Ws2/CqTgE1s5AufQUMfntQiW4jEpcI1fhA8+arfsmEPQGtUEI5acRPJk3uU5M gp2JhYz677sKtk4ZnnQjtdqUGScuWSpt1qzhjoX8a+BiSlflE4qpR0Ge4NpyAyKa4HTu iEYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732469536; x=1733074336; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QHj5cgxeFyozZ+shTLFK1vIFuERJW02myfAiQE/7NfA=; b=uji0yId2JchSE+QJ7cHxhuN4ubLXe7YFTcZ9/6BKLI5IqtWaQwZayGKRU0wTuu8RgH 9r7+veeh6mFf6YRKZ0oN3SRSZ9ZGjJZLmMBD38F1z+sTF35linUhXrgG+ry754IETNXG y4AhY/wk7je3f6dTIkLHvzWt2OqY8TEaewYtJl9Nk9QsWVjLoAhpH7kPlDneRbjD7RPC Kd+6HKidCCSfCtc3Pmj4Gi+Tfc1FwvyYj4Ylrdmp6YQ4soIJMax8NPdmQDXCdeZvSTsS zHIv0aJAn81OmBR4Zj2X3KdIHRRsdu+0K/4aABuxkpUc0cv8tcDBQr8qvKxS2Q97wB1m SRzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwbKoCn85tZjvSII9PBmOkOGRp3yH81EzYnDYJ9KlFnpv0t72xY 4gT5MdHhP5pCE7tU5aiGprMjj2OlDgU04MHqB6ophiVua7Ll4lHZ4DMsgAdNHfOEeG2NialxfMS eYD3j7vtKdwQ9+czTI3f7RfLRTy7hem83Rf+vpylJ X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvomGhTtB7ghOInbrp26vLTPI3ww/+nwMcvXLZvqoURTz1esaNAMQcVkiy8rfP LZayIBUCmjg0KN77jD8mw9CR80CgfKdbo12ZslKiFPASWrgHkoSnAmzOYeeyPtbE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF86db/7ZX3JCZR+SaLtL2QKzw2qafQircfDJm9PKzSpdyxt46C0srYhhD0vGRfxzALoKffuGzg7w5iNHBq20U= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:42cb:b0:5cf:f660:d58d with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d0207c10c7mr6690510a12.29.1732469536201; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:32:16 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Eskello Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 18:32:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: dragonfly mail agent (dma) no tls by default To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004a21860627abff24" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::542:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XxG9s5vLXz4MR7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- --0000000000004a21860627abff24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi gang (m/f/x), Today I accidentally discovered my mailhub did not use tls sending outbound email, for some mail. It turned out my old procmail uses sendmail which is now dma, since I upgraded to freebsd 14. I enabled SECURETRANSFER and STARTTLS in /etc/dma.conf. Done. :-) After thinking about it, I presume I missed a HEADS UP, since all is well documented in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail/ . I scribbled some lines to my upgrade checklist. But then I started to wonder: why is tls (yeah well, starttls) disabled by default? Isn't that too conservative in soon-to-be 2025? P --0000000000004a21860627abff24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi gang (m/f/x),

Today I accidentally d= iscovered my mailhub did not use tls sending outbound email, for some mail.= It turned out my old procmail uses sendmail which is now dma, since I upgr= aded to freebsd 14.=C2=A0

I enabled SECURETRANSFER= and STARTTLS in /etc/dma.conf. Done. :-) After thinking about it, I presum= e I missed a HEADS UP, since all is well documented in=C2=A0https://docs.freebsd.org/en/b= ooks/handbook/mail/ . I scribbled some lines to my upgrade checklist.

But then I started to wonder: why is tls (yeah well= , starttls) disabled by default? Isn't that too conservative in soon-to= -be 2025?

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