From nobody Fri Nov 01 16:31:39 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Xg5wy0SDlz5c448 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2024 16:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from fhigh-a4-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh-a4-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.155]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Xg5wx5728z417j for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from phl-compute-06.internal (phl-compute-06.phl.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfhigh.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927231140096; Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-imap-08 ([10.202.2.84]) by phl-compute-06.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 01 Nov 2024 12:32:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=langille.org; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1730478720; x=1730565120; bh=gLs7uuVlTeyWARetHdFHQFCTGVl86bwkAyquJJfEY1w=; b= IbIFzZA3XMMCzQxsXqc+T2GKTtgcjja0rSpkELnsKKbWJe07ox8Eb0WOu59WSnPJ 9vxbcib4nmoDSwYOdWCHXFfVN4yjW724+0lX+HW1gxOtFibz/EBAQl0JLw1w9M0a a5nDsqEPimBwjMSfzNkA1JdE14/tLI7mATVukp8zcQwhAb5F6bSq72QWSiwSI44i 6Jw1NnDBXdzGPKxUeEeKFZlJkHMY6nGsZ36bFnh+4G+GMGLz5AUeB0Tv7JaSXrZB BpS43zb2yPyAQLvreX9cdF/KMxFGfHEaZwuKFrpCBTn30kwSCAAf86wjzIzMiFH1 69xf/dDn/Db6AdjFQyvCfg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1730478720; x= 1730565120; bh=gLs7uuVlTeyWARetHdFHQFCTGVl86bwkAyquJJfEY1w=; b=D uhnyo7pGgFMsdV9DBhqg0XzC7QJqro6An+NVRurfrqLCMpbolgQo3gCDRBGMFRgp Q1+mRDBHVFNwl5hsgmT65vzzWFyfn7TvUA5XI9h8ajPtvNgT5u50VNH8cC8Sa3FX 3OvwQakxwlw1qDDXg1WQw2Z+G5s75LEKtylmjTXLNZ9HftQUUt4f/iGHaLxOnp+F QHfojaIop1UHnvB9fzCujKubXj7jSTVUrPVhAjV4H2xZMJDk5ZMBIhHK0UEkW3Xh +KDNMVMA4dyGqMTotKH28zo67KdtPRCcl4xx8KBaI1FOp86Vu/Jtpksa6btTGkQS Fe1Oq9adrLkEV3Kz521MA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvdekledgkeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnh htshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepofggfffhvfevkfgjfhfutgfgsehtjeertdertddt necuhfhrohhmpedfffgrnhcunfgrnhhgihhllhgvfdcuoegurghnsehlrghnghhilhhlvg drohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieeludfgheeggfehueekudevfeeigefhleei kefghffhjeegvdetgeelteduteeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrg hmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepuggrnheslhgrnhhgihhllhgvrdhorhhgpdhnsggprhgtphht thhopeefpdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthdprhgtphhtthhopegurghlvgesuggrlhgvsh gtohhtthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehfrhgvvggsshguqdhquhgvshhtihhonhhssehf rhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepjhhohhhnlhesihgvtggtrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ifbf9424e:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.phl.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2294E18A0068; Fri, 1 Nov 2024 12:32:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 12:31:39 -0400 From: "Dan Langille" To: "John Levine" , "RW via freebsd-questions" Cc: dale@dalescott.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <382f9b53-0d5e-0fd3-5d9f-9d1a8954dd5b@iecc.com> References: <685d00e3-bacb-45cd-a166-40c6a484347e@app.fastmail.com> <22042f18-4cbb-4f62-841b-fef4a7262899@app.fastmail.com> <1c49d4a22aefd22541a526d387912eb3@dalescott.net> <20241031225337.288E8A4F1F81@ary.qy> <382f9b53-0d5e-0fd3-5d9f-9d1a8954dd5b@iecc.com> Subject: Re: dma: could not pick up queue file Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:151847, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Xg5wx5728z417j X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, at 9:23 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024, Dan Langille wrote: >> This event occurred today. These logs are slightly amended to obscure host names and email and IP addresses. >> >> Nov 1 00:00:10 wikis newsyslog[46335]: logfile turned over >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60][90243]: new mail from user=root uid=26 envelope_from= >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[dma][90258]: could not pick up queue file: `/var/spool/dma/Q46d60.432a50848050'/`/var/spool/dma/M46d60.432a50848050': No such file or directory >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60][90243]: mail to= queued as 46d60.432a50848050 >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60.432a50848050][90243]: trying delivery >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60.432a50848050][90269]: using smarthost (tallboy.[redacted]:25) >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60.432a50848050][90269]: trying remote delivery to tallboy.[redacted] [10.0.0.1] pref 0 >> Nov 1 03:05:42 wikis dma[46d60.432a50848050][90269]: delivery successful >> Nov 1 03:46:21 wikis dma[46d47][96425]: new mail from user=root uid=26 envelope_from= > > Look again. The failure was PID 90258 which I assume is the daemon, not > 90243 which is the program sending the message. This suggests it is > indeed a harmless race condition. > > In my experience, the initial delivery always succeeds and it never > queues, so running the queue daemon once a day just in case should be > plenty. Is this queue daemon sitting around waiting to do something? Where did it come from? [16:30 wikis dvl ~] % sudo ps auwwx | grep dma dvl 66535 0.0 0.1 12808 2376 1 S+J 16:30 0:00.00 grep dma It's not there. So where did it come from? -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org