From nobody Tue Mar 19 14:44:48 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TzZJ20wnCz5FZ8X for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net) Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [IPv6:2a02:1658:1::199:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net", Issuer "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TzZJ12bpWz4GBS for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=cmplx.uk (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net has no SPF policy when checking 2a02:1658:1::199:1) smtp.mailfrom=lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [178.250.76.108]) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 42JEimHu007106 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:44:48 GMT (envelope-from lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net) Received: (from lists@localhost) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 42JEimkY007105 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:44:48 GMT (envelope-from lists) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:44:48 +0000 From: lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail status Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.51 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.81)[-0.806]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[lists@cmplx.uk,lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[cmplx.uk : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12290, ipnet:2a02:1658::/32, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[lists@cmplx.uk,lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TzZJ12bpWz4GBS Wanted to clarify the status of sendmail. https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail/#dragonFly-mail-agent says: *quote* dma(8) is not intended as a replacement for real, big MTAs like sendmail(8) *end quote* Does this mean that sendmail in the base OS is *not* deprecated or similar? I'm not against adapting and trying dma, but I'm confused by the the handbook examples of using dma to route outgoing mail through 3rd party servers. Does it mean that dma only works with external smtp? i.e. does dma not have its own smtp? However, if sendmail is not deprecated/obsolescent, I'd prefer to keep using that. Thank you Anton