From nobody Thu Jun 06 15:58:42 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vw8Bv09d9z5N3Jb for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com (sendmail.purelymail.com [34.202.193.197]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Vw8Bt1tZ6z4TgB for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 15:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=purelymail.com header.s=purelymail3 header.b=yqNJ+8Qq; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mail@ozzmosis.com designates 34.202.193.197 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mail@ozzmosis.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=yqNJ+8QqUkJn/bAnnYC+5yS1jIflgN3fJA0VnUHm8vVd80JmCiDfVfCNTxo+ijcbeFPP8voU85UXrbdgSQLFC5pAAIqvVRoB6gMFU6W/d10oX7Xj9rmfPds2dN/oKirQ/c/CsZq59seUIVQYogUTsMaIUSYXLKGnJ6XEx0c3qOwVIWW4VyDZyQvzqqELdtEkZRk3y7WZP4Wzom6Mp7Tb4BqPB0BMYj++IT/q4Mk3iT1rbdGEr97IrCf7+5sZOOfLjPs7E2C8gYC2DEFPjGgT1BpPkU0ZmC5QIFaUV5Str5K8nIeeS4a8NTMSJSdwcBiyFKEEw4yKbWvlMxRr0cUJPQ==; s=purelymail3; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=hQQYxfakzgAvLxAqOsci1i+OxJHBjBtSRZ00dbWdHnM=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject; Feedback-ID: 20038:3741:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -1059729562; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 06 Jun 2024 15:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4396FA79E2; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 01:58:42 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 01:58:42 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Reshad Patuck Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Request to revive a port? Message-ID: References: <202406050442.WAA26463@mail.lariat.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20240425 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:34.202.193.197]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[purelymail.com:s=purelymail3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ozzmosis.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:34.192.0.0/12, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[purelymail.com:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vw8Bt1tZ6z4TgB On 2024-06-05 10:35:34, Reshad Patuck (reshadpatuck1@gmail.com) wrote: > I had a look at the FreeBSD-ports repository history and it looks like the > Jove port expired in January this year. > editors/jove||2024-01-18|Has expired: No upstream update in last 23 years > The upstream for this port is > https://ftp.cs.toronto.edu/pub/moraes/jove/ARCHIVE/4.16/ with the latest > files from 1996. This seems a bit abitrary and unfair since MicroEMACS 4.0 (editors/uemacs) remains in Ports despite upstream not being updated since 1996-04-22. I uploaded the source to GitHub a few years ago as the maintainer of the FreeBSD port. Maybe moving it to GitHub was enough to keep the DeletionMonster(tm) away. Or maybe it was just overlooked. A mystery for the ages. I don't really use MicroEMACS myself any more but I believe there are still some FreeBSD users that do, so I'd prefer it wasn't deleted solely because it's unmaintained. (If I was being really petty and stubborn I could fork the source, change one byte and claim it was maintained again!) In time there will be a lot more unmaintained open source software. Age alone can't be enough to remove something from Ports. A good example is archives/zip which hasn't seen an update since 2008. PS. I've just discovered there's now a fork of the newer MicroEMACS 5.0 which has been patched to run under FreeBSD: git clone https://github.com/JoachimSchneider/MicroEmacs cd MicroEmacs/ue500/freebsd/termcap make ./emacs