From nobody Sun Jan 28 06:33:34 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TN1q03h3Wz57vGq for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 06:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ozgurkazancci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com (mail-yb1-xb35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TN1pz2ncBz4CnL for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 06:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ozgurkazancci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=Ly5kuPG+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ozgurkazancci@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ozgurkazancci@gmail.com Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dc226bad48cso1348530276.3 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:33:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1706423626; x=1707028426; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WSWcl8toG9xa068dSGX8QEg+xRXttmV0ioXFUe32eUU=; b=Ly5kuPG+TmmKM9X6KNrAfaNeW1GDPtmdLDedS8QHg89Ez2JmhuGIIgopl4bcstjj/8 Wcgko0v8Cv3CMMvPqzDN+0paxvIIdURQg5xFcclJFeWMXNBD4V7ZmcYHoqtDHosnZNZn HGZZhBDRTxqkXywnQwG7x0uGRVOweoekyuuU5HpggPAW2zhHfHHA8aBjAQwxsg1SkBQZ 00i8fn53H2Gv8NxqrXY+MDxVHBtlEHLG9RdK4zkCS0UF7d5JVRpP7IJ42uACga9fGWbR 5zou4JmQzOhIMyEwzqgzXb8JmbHXAbPWu6po8Hs6Eqt+Q47kcPeJFeKhmqKPjyJswc5m FF2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706423626; x=1707028426; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=WSWcl8toG9xa068dSGX8QEg+xRXttmV0ioXFUe32eUU=; b=ElYfBJVbMQSxWqnPysa9Y2Xf3gb2Oij9bmE6F9aj70wRyLqTUUtFAbjAdSZ3mC4vHL ipblNDsE5dMX9GJPgoucz1u2HB3wppU0VZiupaeyu06pHOuJ0Ddls/00sTSor7SfxH7E VPlMgl4kRo5JnFeowp3VPa/VV0X2fcq5MjqxaGkhqIrpRM3ksC45mHE2+pB/u4s0sLmz VzW7Z670GiyTGGJah7u3OKFfx1MgA0ppSyGgg7S8jM9tNNgCba7w5dOCijSkimvEqCHa zxC4ukJo2enkTLvgncyaitFAClulNo67CLTztlaj5WhvsN76jxiA1v61NQ9AWsVtL0R4 BZ8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyGvk/LsUPAZXve8QzbJn3UbhcxGlmj2gKvf/9n7VL9g2mW9M7a nOaJME0ohDT1Xqa+F3+UInWMukdtdhPlqPgaa8e3vQKmH5LDcNzW3uFg0fgVZK1lO17JECLFq3r vNsARQ923REZAWyfB4rPTrDDjiE7XI9Ra X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGSfGw31LZln3yA8jGOP2ypdFf9nz1lwwK6aPXlTQOgQMCcAhU1H1lKzPR/RvvlEr8R7FzOPKcvXYvNN64Cj88= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:e68f:0:b0:602:9c33:f315 with SMTP id p137-20020a0de68f000000b006029c33f315mr1822123ywe.82.1706423626159; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:33:46 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4434uibfn6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <4434uibfn6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?w5Z6Z8O8ciBLb25zdGFudGluIEthemFuw6fDp8Sx?= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:33:34 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE To: Karl Vogel Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000012db33060ffbb671" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.75 / 15.00]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(1.25)[subject]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TN1pz2ncBz4CnL --00000000000012db33060ffbb671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the fact, below! It's a quite old release and exposing it to the Internet for ~10 years is itself a scary story, who knows what it contains in the background. I'd create a backup, do a fresh OS install from scratch, and restore everything to the new system. Is there any technical obstacle to not being able to do this? What services do you run there? Best, =C3=96zg=C3=BCr Konstantin Kazancci On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 01:01 Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > It sounds like the system has been exposed to the Internet without > updates for about ten years. If that is the case, I wouldn't trust it > anyway, so upgrading it to something recent would be silly even if it > were easy. > > Be well. > > --00000000000012db33060ffbb671 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's the fact, below! It's a quite old rel= ease and exposing it to the Internet for ~10 years is itself a scary story,= who knows what it contains in the background.

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I'd create a backup, do a fresh OS install from = scratch, and restore everything to the new system. Is there any technical o= bstacle to not being able to do this?

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What services do you run there?
Best,

=C3=96zg=C3=BCr Konstantin Kazancci


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 01:01 Lowell Gilbert &l= t;freebsd-questi= ons-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:

It sounds like = the system has been exposed to the Internet without
updates for about ten years. If that is the case, I wouldn't trust it anyway, so upgrading it to something recent would be silly even if it
were easy.

Be well.

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