From nobody Sat Jan 27 13:46:21 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TMbSb1SbRz58G7P for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (mail.rcn.syn-alias.com [129.213.13.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TMbSZ6TXsz45yh for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1706363182; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=cE3SE4B3/jRD+TLaJOQ7ZS+gY6I=; b=QGJ25oqrsvMh4OwKMLjUJsGUHsWl10prx1kg4lpFlHCgd1miwF9iq80FTbCU1f6V DOH3IgA7WFSRRsurfr8xNbmyhNgu7/rbLuY2tLMGquRsr0F0Di8vceLxysnibRlf JHSrOv2j4yDanYTWbrkveEhDOLnbaOYg6q/lDFJKK/mninJq2tUoJRDXKtAekyWF cXJ/VNkaUbVtONz97x+K87PkZUdhbnZoA1ZQp0T3zIX00P8FMge57+TIvOAeXIui +EJggAaAETIneKyO/+5qbB8yHEJ8slSSLgC8dy8eKFuvB5RNkdSlnWtoI1dcSnNI X+RY8orHY1ZAV9V6XLKPkA==; X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [130.44.151.156] ([130.44.151.156:50967] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 4.4.1.20033 r(msys-ecelerity:tags/4.4.1.0^0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id CB/C9-10852-E2905B56; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:46:22 -0500 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <26037.2349.49416.506078@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:46:21 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: questions@freebsd.org CC: vogelke@pobox.com Subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 29.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrvdelledgheehucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhho X-Vade-Analysis-2: fhhilhgvmecuufgjpfetvefqtfdptfevpfdpgffpggdqtfevpfdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecu X-Vade-Analysis-3: fedtudenucenucfjughrpeggtgfgkfffhffvvefujghfofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfho X-Vade-Analysis-4: sggvrhhtucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhesrhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghr X-Vade-Analysis-5: nhepheduiedvteehueejhffhudevhedthfeukeetudfhkeduveektedvgedvkeeuvddtnecukfhppedu X-Vade-Analysis-6: fedtrdeggedrudehuddrudehieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvght X-Vade-Analysis-7: pedufedtrdeggedrudehuddrudehiedphhgvlhhopehjvghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhu X-Vade-Analysis-8: shdrohhrghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhf X-Vade-Analysis-9: sehrtghnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepvhhoghgvlhhkvgesphhosghogidrtghomhdprhgtphhtthho X-Vade-Analysis-10: pehquhgvshhtihhonhhssehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgpdhmthgrhhhoshhtpehsmhhtphdtvddrrhgt X-Vade-Analysis-11: nhdrvghmrghilhdqrghshhdurdhshihntgdrlhgrnhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpihhspghnrgep X-Vade-Analysis-12: thhruhgvpdgruhhthhgpuhhsvghrpehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffh X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TMbSZ6TXsz45yh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31898, ipnet:129.213.8.0/21, country:US] Karl Vogel: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 02:56:05AM -0500, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Is there a way to upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE, or even change it to > > 14-RELEASE? > > Seriously, if it's possible don't even try. Make (and test) a good > backup, do a clean install from scratch, and restore your old stuff. > > You don't want any part of a nightmare like that. I'm with Karl (and others) on this. And it occurs to me it might not even work. Exactly how old is the hardware, and what does it have (or not have) that might cause modern software to cough up a hairball? Respectfully, Robert Huff