From nobody Thu Feb 29 01:42:11 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TlYqz1G4Lz5BZWg for ; Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [47.181.130.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TlYqy6TY7z45Dm for ; Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TlYqx6v0bz2gF7t; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:42:21 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Subject: Re: Remote development with neovim, tmux and SSH from macOS? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:42:11 -0800 References: <20240228223745.DACE0841EA7D@ary.qy> <870AB939-4B51-42B6-9D41-57BF2010500B@sermon-archive.info> To: Lexi Winter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <26A740CF-D8C1-4DFA-8BD4-55996EB65A8A@sermon-archive.info> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.2.1 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5650, ipnet:47.181.128.0/18, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TlYqy6TY7z45Dm > On Feb 28, 2024, at 17:07, Lexi Winter wrote: >=20 > Doug Hardie: >> [...] I have run FreeBSD 13 on a M1 Mini for awhile to test it out. = I >> have recently been using Raspberry Pi 4s as they are cheaper, = smaller, >> and use less power. They are a bit slower for disk access, but >> otherwise just as powerful.=20 >=20 > i have to say, having used both an M1 Mac Mini and a few RPis for > several months now, this doesn't match my experience at all. the RPi4 > is certainly pretty decent, especially for what it costs, but the CPU > performance of even the base M1 Mac Mini is so far ahead of the RPi4's > that there's really no comparison. >=20 > i've done plenty of desktop development work on an M1 Mac (mostly C++ > and C# projects) and while the performance of the base model isn't > amazing, it's perfectly usable. on the RPi, on the other hand, i find > the CPU is too slow to even compile ports usefully[0]. That is not surprising. cc uses a lot of disk I/O, and that little = microSD is extremely slow. Replace it with an external SSD and move = everything to it. Use systat -v to monitor the disk usage. I don't = normally run with an external drive as there is no need for it. The = microSD is adequate for my needs. Disk intensive applications will = certainly run slower. >=20 > i only mention this because i wouldn't want someone to disregard the > idea of using an M1 (or later) Mac for FreeBSD simply because they = found > the RPi too slow--they really have very little in common other than > using the same ISA. -- Doug