From nobody Sun Feb 25 06:45:11 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TjDlL16LDz5Bp9v for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 06:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TjDlJ4lNNz4Cww for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 06:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=LrgCHf8E; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1708843511; bh=gBzN0D7FD4X5/0G30fCrmUI4CbAjrazc6+H0zhSse6w=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LrgCHf8EdOEsDQYjB0vK+w9F51SRhjMDetpo5A7vmlPxj3B+TKmHzpWkCL2nDoUat +Tvq7MG7QbyPPpMo/ygQcVum7bTRd3Oz46xGFUb5IaTobCnBgeGDFqU+CeYq1Yxmaq jERXNrllU0b7kNVT+bGA60w6gEyomc4DblCRCG/exLZlrjt2RhyMSGD5est1xY50j2 xysoeQ5LrYzZgD38JfcbTMqYxycWNBMCWogvm2rFdb+xpRVjBdbB5B/7QtM38+fiHJ K1p80vxewGCZy+L62nGjibqxyzdRBi5lycgxjcga30isBSenqiiejrxaAA9+tc6qe4 5Lp6gcBKNg0c8z0JPcdnFIOxW7K4tfqu2r+klVXsrcG6sL6MvWNcgmNzdn+5UpdyBT xCdvyA+zt/d8bDPSpeZOeCLCmSlvzpw97pvd46ELQRUEK6GkDncaeAesWm1qX9vkZO ovLyOPBinKGDpJzF9mmkA6ra5nGdrk/Vi+QCevY1uzbPAPtExQWJZmINXNrzaSBMhd jDM9ydtqGFxa0OmOoyW13OoYdA3HGHTCCdVyD4fUoeZyx4hGubpLUcazZccQsPbIci PYIVFn7/iSoEqUFJZg1imuQbocq5Zsn7HLREmC4ohPRpjaUtgVpX7oRD7tVuFDGjZL ciL4fKhoinaIWzs5fLFfVh+o= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:45:11 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:45:11 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Illumos ZFS, and OpenZFS Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4ff00fb1-6f7b-476e-8eb5-7d5db8262a23@holgerdanske.com> <661a9ba4-9fd1-40e9-842a-541e41bc9012@holgerdanske.com> <86bk86yqzx.fsf@ltc.des.no> From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: <86bk86yqzx.fsf@ltc.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjDlJ4lNNz4Cww On 2/24/24 04:40, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > David Christensen writes: >> mike tancsa writes: >>> David Christensen writes: >>>> My avoidance of OpenZFS has been reaffirmed. I do not want my >>>> data on OpenZFS. >>> TBH, you are overthinking this. >> Given two severe bugs in four months, it does not require much >> thought to conclude that OpenZFS places data at risk. > > For the love of all that's holy, stop reading Phoronix, it's the > National Enquirer of F/OSS. > > DES I'm with Kay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duA5eWjHCjU >>>> If I use a FreeBSD 13-2-R installer to create a new FreeBSD instance >>>> with ZFS file systems and without native encryption: >>>> >>>> 1. Will the installed FreeBSD instance contain corrupt files? >>>> >>>> 2. Will the installed FreeBSD instance contain OpenZFS bug #15526? Looking at the FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE Announcement: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.2R/announce/ ZFS has been upgraded to OpenZFS release 2.1.9. Looking at the OpenZFS bug report #15526: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526 OpenZFS Version 2.2.0 If I do not use OpenZFS native encryption per OpenZFS documentation issue #494, I conclude the answer to question #1 is "No". I prefer packages. Looking at the FreeBSD-EN-23:16.openzfs Errata Notice: https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-23:16.openzfs.asc 1) To update your system via a binary patch: Systems running a RELEASE version of FreeBSD on the amd64 or arm64 platforms, or the i386 platfrom on FreeBSD 13 and earlier, can be updated via the freebsd-update(8) utility: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r +10min "Rebooting to apply OpenZFS erratum update" I conclude the answer to question #2 is "Yes"; but a documented fix can be applied after installation to resolve OpenZFS issue #15526. David