From nobody Mon Feb 19 03:10:56 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TdSGy0QCqz58pFn for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 03:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TdSGx0DTXz4md7 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 03:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=KUSPkNx4; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1708312256; bh=x8PO9F4oeepWBLGgUzqagJgKF3mIkaFQOKZq2I3rlrs=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Content-Language: To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KUSPkNx4Y+w7UJgzOZNwvi3EGGOJKaiUdcC8noVSM7f7aBeQVREeXEHYHJo4M5ciE inbQuIL46IOSGGz18Lc+blHWr719MJ8Tsu+GiUJH9TSC/il1iXjyhk24BUI4C1a7ej BRWOKB3W8hEbyeCSO1HumoIXfBuGVZ+4iSBm+a5CoYRAUBG3+khMzdJnEdT//hESoD Fy/bdHPwb6X/0a0Syuz8tegnIq/9k3itIPkp8vkdgYt5Gmv2Hfw2eCldfBdTqIc8mp a19YaizeT07GbU7mUtxKvHtRnG2ROkDV08Nfg+vMnc1CAaixIu+tQVw/gMuZlzc32u dO6PbLW/sC82SJrPr3OyrOIQ3/UkExkqeOk7bYfMena5dsDvlxJzEX0TEpRyEtrWv4 s5pK/m3f6x7V2pjpBms9GeCXANeWtDBluxOySQAryZMh8d8sD4FA3xm9YYPlxn6sDS TKlelpFP/KjsraFKIhWlQxtCXDAUVTZ8iUPVARLFdZm3fo6NFAWZyvX/FLT2NRp0LL jlIa0yzhrT1PmdubRBLuMH53eJMh7Fp9nqMY0/gztrilPBi2/tVxwFO6u5HKoNhIu7 fsA606Fsy7vFToMy4trTzVZKTN3V5OzfZkXfzdQaESTbMGUDhbOs2/SKFTWKBfA5VI YOCBHdElVcGhssrURSdahMmc= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:10:56 -0800 Message-ID: <4ff00fb1-6f7b-476e-8eb5-7d5db8262a23@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:10:56 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: FreeBSD, Illumos ZFS, and OpenZFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdSGx0DTXz4md7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+] freebsd-questions: I have been running FreeBSD 12 RELEASE amd64 with ZFS on root and a ZFS data pool 24x7 on a SOHO storage server for the past four years. The learning curve has been tough at times, but I have been very pleased with the results. AIUI FreeBSD 12 used Illumos ZFS code, while FreeBSD 13 uses OpenZFS code. Given the OpenZFS data corruption bug in December 2023, I was hesitant to upgrade to FreeBSD 13 and OpenZFS: https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenZFS-Data-Corruption-Battle Now another OpenZFS bug has been found: https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenZFS-Encrypt-Corrupt My avoidance of OpenZFS has been reaffirmed. I do not want my data on OpenZFS. But FreeBSD 12 is now EOL and unsupported. I cannot access the final set of packages. It is possible to run Illumos ZFS code on FreeBSD 13 RELEASE amd64? I do not see a port: https://ports.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=zfs&stype=name&sektion=all Should I just switch to an Illumos based distribution? Recommendations? https://illumos.org/docs/about/distro/ Any other comments or suggestions? David