From nobody Wed Apr 17 08:25:00 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VKDWP6RK0z5J86j for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gray@nxg.name) Received: from mx1.mythic-beasts.com (mx1.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:86:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VKDWP0DFbz4H33 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gray@nxg.name) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mailhub-cam-d.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rx0c2-0064xS-QV; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:25:51 +0100 From: Norman Gray To: Alexander Burke Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: small form factor router recommendations Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:25:00 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5964) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <30df4160-a619-4670-9f13-16785eeca2c7@alexburke.ca> References: <30df4160-a619-4670-9f13-16785eeca2c7@alexburke.ca> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:44684, ipnet:2a00:1098::/32, country:GB] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VKDWP0DFbz4H33 Greetings. On 16 Apr 2024, at 23:41, Alexander Burke wrote: > There sure is: > > https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/dell-optiplex-3040-small-form-factor Interesting. Myself, I really wouldn't call that 'small form factor', wh= atever Dell call it. I'd call that just 'a moderately compact desktop'. Looking at the specs [1], it's about 300 x 300 x 100 mm. What Dell calls= a 'micro form factor' machine [2] is about 180 x 180 x 40mm, and even th= at's pushing it: that's easily the biggest thing I'd think of as 'small'.= I'm not sure what I'd take as a definition of 'small form factor', but 's= mall enough to be strapped to the back of a monitor' and 'fanless' or 'a = few Watts' would probably be in there. Aha: of _course_ there's a Wikipedia page about them [3]. It looks like = volume is a key discriminant, with the things I'd think of as 'small' com= ing in under 1 litre. Best wishes, Norman [1] https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktop-computers/optiplex-small-form= -factor/spd/optiplex-7010-small-ff/s015o7010sff_vp [2] https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktop-computers/optiplex-micro-form= -factor/spd/optiplex-7010-plus-micro/gctoo7010mffpemea_vp [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form_factor_(desktop_and_motherbo= ard) -- = Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk