From nobody Fri May 19 13:41:27 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QN7Kl67Gdz4BxbX for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 13:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from mx1.blackfoot.net (mx1.blackfoot.net [216.14.232.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.blackfoot.net", Issuer "RapidSSL Global TLS RSA4096 SHA256 2022 CA1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QN7Kl3JSTz3jQD for ; Fri, 19 May 2023 13:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from bmfe3.blackfoot.net ([66.109.128.163]) by mx1.blackfoot.net ({9cf3d135-7b6e-4041-a57b-61a932741f4e}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20230519134127738_0000; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:41:27 -0600 X-RC-FROM: Received: from webmail.blackfoot.net (unknown [192.168.100.133]) by bmfe3.blackfoot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0A580F18; Fri, 19 May 2023 07:41:27 -0600 (MDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 06:41:27 -0700 From: vagabond To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: How to disable the lights on modern case fans In-Reply-To: <01c21572512c33b9059fcb806eb96ef4befb2f2b.camel@riseup.net> References: <401c1650-156f-69db-e3f1-40b8c3ab76c5@wp.pl> <20230519073129.128b90176cf28b0ffebad28c@sohara.org> <295e9835-5dbe-3196-4a9c-f4043c86ee60@wp.pl> <01c21572512c33b9059fcb806eb96ef4befb2f2b.camel@riseup.net> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.11 Message-ID: <619dc017e6de32aa0e430d3863757a8f@blackfoot.net> X-Sender: vagabond@blackfoot.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MAG-OUTBOUND: blackfoot.redcondor.net@66.109.128.163/32 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=aItIcOr/hSiiJoGDl8Vw2G/29awssGvucNMRZDz+JeDY8YJRwHu81h5Xx/y11KSoo1PyU/5L1J3+07aoADLCIWGrmJ9n71u9rDZzH9yz11JcsgFTq2AA4xz290/MxI3/1wfbQmqaBzaRh2H5nUy5mU4gh5yyCxY0ptLe48qa4PHgBNeZBhq2RgXxhYhxowQthVbTvEd/59dSGBsPHoPjyPvcJSZ8gF9UsNHkyAAo3cUFCv5OeWnL6s6dc9rqUjh3a4CmQW/DygTqlL0ash9kg5OkxH+Rg8Mg05TgVDoNA7XoAvFcMMftur5nJJKUS3oEa3NlpIEW/3OfpiVx67kQeQ==; s=ew; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=blackfoot.net; v=1; bh=kAnQvI49kR8lvIy0kl9ZyU3muWevLTQiyvQrJltWsfc=; h=from:to:message-id; X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QN7Kl3JSTz3jQD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:216.14.224.0/19, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2023-05-19 00:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 08:39 +0200, Ireneusz Pluta/wp.pl wrote: >> W dniu 19.05.2023 o 08:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith pisze: >> > On Fri, 19 May 2023 08:24:37 +0200 >> > "Ireneusz Pluta/wp.pl" wrote: >> > >> > > W dniu 19.05.2023 o 06:56, Aryeh Friedman pisze: How >> > > > do I turn the damned things off (it is making it impossible to sleep). >> > > > >> > > use black insulating tape. If not enough, add more layers. >> > Copper or aluminium tape is far more effective. >> > >> but not safe so close to the electronic stuff. >> > > Insulating tape doesn't stick forever, a kind of duct tape probably > does, but also does look more disgusting than insulating tape already > does. If it's not possible to open the fan housing, then I agree with > Dan Mahoney, trying black nail polish in several coats. It might not > hold, flake off, but while insulating tape that gets into the fan could > damage it, dry, flaked off nail polish will not. Should the nail polish > hold, it was also easier to apply and looks better than any kind of > tape. Related to tape or polish I can't comment on smoke or burn. I > just > suspect that this isn't a risk. Never tried this, but ... Might drilling out the lights work? You'd have to actually destroy the led, or at least break one of the wires / contacts. Kind of drastic compared to nailpolish, but more permanent...