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Though it misses some features it is a great hypervisor. Xen has never been more than experimental as Dom0 on FreeBSD, also the freebsd-xen mailing list has been quite idle in recent years. Regards, Robert On 17.05.23 14:00, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I am new to virtualization on FreeBSD and trying to figure out the best > solution for my use case. > > I am running a workstation and hoping to ditch multi-booting several > partitions of FreeBSD, Linux Minst, KDE Neon, etc. > > I only have a single hard drive (6TB), so root-on-zfs is ok, though I am > perplexed by zfs complexity.=C2=A0 I have no intention of offering comme= rcial > virtualization.=C2=A0 I just want to audit OSes. > > I have watched P03A: Xen HVMlite and FreeBSD - Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 on > YouTube, but I have a hard time viewing and hearing the presentation. Is > there a written version of this presentation with slides available? > > There has been a lot of development of virtualization since this > presentation.=C2=A0 Are there newer presentations of each virtualization > solution? > > Why would I choose bhyve over Xen? > >