From nobody Wed May 17 11:03:45 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QLtbp6wC9z4B69Y for ; Wed, 17 May 2023 13:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x1135.google.com (mail-yw1-x1135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QLtbp62k8z4QLL for ; Wed, 17 May 2023 13:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x1135.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-561d611668eso5314177b3.0 for ; Wed, 17 May 2023 06:04:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1684328662; x=1686920662; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wtgP6+GAEHhVSZvOG4nE0/YBa8JTm//6XoOGUPoSJPo=; b=XG/50z2Xs8akyCVQEssXSO0ZpJY8GpbmSDPQnuGeNRanGuDp7lonxSjh438ntqTCKb Vii5/3OrNVsoK9lCmwnBVKGtQ1/Ln8OXJk4cX+OyKBqEE3w0nTjmLfCUCvQKNH/mkc6k 66hSvqXIK5k+8vCM+Mj++ueYze8aopms3sGu5AtJpMVwnY0oihccR33+Sxmm4ZaAkdrD Xq74FHgaXSHSl4ZqD74D2aFvJH7tdhlxYhVOJ1IvdBKamOspYYuEIq5fPr+FXH/RF2l2 AszfFA0w09J2pIrS/b8X7I0vhGl+jkucC3kQr0La/uen8EM4Kvs5s+IXJGdaxHC0fysH 43UQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684328662; x=1686920662; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=wtgP6+GAEHhVSZvOG4nE0/YBa8JTm//6XoOGUPoSJPo=; b=VK+9ebFoiwcRgb+2BA3DenyFbr3kcphrlsfhZxvzPiXr4HkHxRXvx9c5l5YKGlOjK3 iCWOPGyNk1YTl4d4xkGaDeu1sWa0M0VNrU5nQK85zmtzniwAXJV5FqGtX+t/W3ggncLE dBKnF4sLmyLEvBVaoqfNLYQbGbEEdJWxyzmZYnBlFQI7nQ4hnFTTJ0wqc+vZ8WR3FHJX hzp8CuxckGE+ouZ/3vkHCCIOORU3CHreD9UKjJB2ZgKE7vKbQlHd4AkrQuwKB5KG24Su 44pRJMPn5bkb1LhvqPhGx4zSgpuCq5E4MyfmosgncGeNxbFGJG4RC4PDfWLmVvN48U6p DhLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxr4zTEkHgjFQ7gCO9v+0UatQHCZeh8AWC2g8UwYqDoN+m4masi AOs/K6o8ilnUpUj9YDO2EKD49WmzTli6QNR20Kia+K7oELQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6VqotiBJ1BIVxriutPAQ1jM/m6zlw9UGlE7EXSlvp9GXLp6KYSs1KaA+aJxi5iKS9Qln6dphcCyRpTsx7y/gM= X-Received: by 2002:a81:69c1:0:b0:561:a422:f3cd with SMTP id e184-20020a8169c1000000b00561a422f3cdmr4051432ywc.30.1684328662093; Wed, 17 May 2023 06:04:22 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mario Marietto Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 13:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: State of virtualization on FreeBSD To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Steven Friedrich Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009717dc05fbe353e8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QLtbp62k8z4QLL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000009717dc05fbe353e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh that's a nice tutorial to try. I have followed the bhyve development from the first time I came to FreeBSD from Linux. And I plan to try XEN from the beginning,too,BUT,I haven't installed it yet because I've read that : 1) it does not support EFI 2) it does not support the gpu passthrough These limitations are intolerable for me and I've chosen to use only bhyve. Does anyone know if they have been removed ? On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:48=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 3:00=E2=80=AFPM Steven Friedrich < > freebsdlouisville@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am new to virtualization on FreeBSD and trying to figure out the best >> solution for my use case. >> >> I am running a workstation and hoping to ditch multi-booting several >> partitions of FreeBSD, Linux Minst, KDE Neon, etc. >> >> I only have a single hard drive (6TB), so root-on-zfs is ok, though I am >> perplexed by zfs complexity. I have no intention of offering commercial >> virtualization. I just want to audit OSes. >> >> I have watched P03A: Xen HVMlite and FreeBSD - Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 on >> YouTube, but I have a hard time viewing and hearing the presentation. >> Is there a written version of this presentation with slides available? >> >> There has been a lot of development of virtualization since this >> presentation. Are there newer presentations of each virtualization >> solution? >> >> Why would I choose bhyve over Xen? >> > > Following! > > I have always been interested in playing with bhyve, but never got a good > HOWTO for dummies :-) > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) > [How to ask smart questions: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] > --=20 Mario. --0000000000009717dc05fbe353e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
oh that's a nice tutorial to try. I have followed= the bhyve development from the first time I came to FreeBSD from Linux. An= d I plan to try XEN from the beginning,too,BUT,I haven't installed it y= et because I've read that :

1) it does not sup= port EFI
2) it does not support the gpu passthrough
These limitations are intolerable for me and I've chosen to= use only bhyve. Does anyone know if they have been removed ?=C2=A0

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:48=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 3:00=E2=80=AFPM Steven Friedrich <<= a href=3D"mailto:freebsdlouisville@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">freebsdloui= sville@gmail.com> wrote:
I am new to virtualization on FreeBSD and trying to figure = out the best
solution for my use case.

I am running a workstation and hoping to ditch multi-booting several
partitions of FreeBSD, Linux Minst, KDE Neon, etc.

I only have a single hard drive (6TB), so root-on-zfs is ok, though I am perplexed by zfs complexity.=C2=A0 I have no intention of offering commerci= al
virtualization.=C2=A0 I just want to audit OSes.

I have watched P03A: Xen HVMlite and FreeBSD - Roger Pau Monn=C3=A9 on
YouTube, but I have a hard time viewing and hearing the presentation.=C2=A0=
Is there a written version of this presentation with slides available?

There has been a lot of development of virtualization since this
presentation.=C2=A0 Are there newer presentations of each virtualization solution?

Why would I choose bhyve over Xen?

Foll= owing!

I have always been interested in playing wi= th bhyve, but never got a good HOWTO for dummies :-)



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+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
"Oh, the cruft.&q= uot;,=C2=A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#= 9;=C2=A0=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
[How to ask smart questions:=C2=A0http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]


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