From nobody Wed Mar 29 05:56:59 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PmbRS3RzVz4235B for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PmbRR4mSJz4P7K for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2023 05:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=NF1E9d9D; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1680069428; x=1682661428; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=9bfl10YM98Dw2H+vZvVzZ5NFlAWOGsRNnxIeHgx2Uug=; b=NF1E9d9DTLS94uI6IOsGqmi6E6tmfPOTvhT9O6LO4hSsZ/Zh6fmGxlCZXTQsea7lAuGqsODJ+c3IXUeHIUjLh61+P4BoIVVB9m+fZ0hxPuQExJZADkDuLQTPCkEQFJyIoc6txNGzITIb98FLv9+zQt35jID3h05+Bn6CqzU3IIk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRmZTAwMDE2ZWQyNjcucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 29 Mar 2023 01:57:01 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (86-42-20-118-dynamic.b-ras1.bdt.dublin.eircom.net [86.42.20.118]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 29 Mar 2023 01:57:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1phOnr-000Jdx-IA for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:56:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:56:59 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docker Message-Id: <20230329065659.f4b82fd593b924119a66cfd2@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.1:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4fe00016ed267.4f8e4034c9e78d3e2a699ed4c69e13a7@email-od.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PmbRR4mSJz4P7K X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000 Hosney Osman wrote: > great information for me is Jails and Bhyve alternative for Docker in > FreeBSD This is not the case! Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC). Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms. The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and cbsd. None of them provide the layered images approach to composing that docker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug and play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your servers). They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails (which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers). > are there any alternative for kubernetes also No - there is nothing else like kubernetes and until recently it had a hard coded dependency on docker. That has now gone and a port of kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails as containers should be possible. The convenient plug and play distributed application component library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD may be a starting point (that would cast bastille into the role that docker plays on Linux for kubernetes). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith