From nobody Mon Mar 20 05:59:07 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Pg3wf0Fzhz40Gbq for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 05:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa1-x36.google.com (mail-oa1-x36.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Pg3wd4dFJz3r4D for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 05:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-oa1-x36.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-17e140619fdso3485798fac.11 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1679291984; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=VcZG028DFpHLzSD9Dc5SXEUo/6cf2Fm82jJbtGMoMhk=; b=jr4bkhI6SX2eDPvzfRKxanf6Rp7jUXWDkAPl5mE7KayO/Goq3g1VSp7yrRSscFTGuA NeKn3Kut/zfYvYkWLV80WSHd3938E9xZlmo/nu3bp34qPxnPHf5qlZH51VdANce6awIo lgnfMlD69ycijE6tsYEp1jXZzcBDxHmIKOvaITvCi4cPHUc1nTAvJt7ta/zjv+fEb2LN ot+sO43vQmD+ZAMC6a6aV01QMQ9z+ifnGtD3QfhJoPQZPsRjkL2q5lz3L5p3n8nX/lFH qwnBCrIb0JNyb9d5qrKvBUElazQcliG8+tUXdfJZZ+DZr1Re1xSz02DnTK7K+qZ6/E8O o0Cg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679291984; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=VcZG028DFpHLzSD9Dc5SXEUo/6cf2Fm82jJbtGMoMhk=; b=eW3Ev3ZUiliPODirT+eNy/Lxq+qnJk/7zKLseV/loRT2wgDe6MXRywcLa3I7T542na 2edN0tFKJyDmyYsMnEW2Y5Q7/NVxRM94BAt0tyU/uz4mbumPxB8f2xdZT0jRiKnGVq5F mdYz/3kU/iffeBQZH4tLERH8cPrhxl0PZNtIBPQtiM0TyjUI/XYkYCdM8C8mvjD+lEvI SkWVaQrJdN+SDIyu+6bZFIvmyeVT12NY6i3Rz4Uut11ByMoDKD4ZN01bakiVLcCOCGRq PaKH1KO7kVdChQz0cdzNbK6cfqXIdtnGDzatKrAqM2Q9iAsmC3EVJvfyc4fFNT+0NkMz 0gZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKW5xyIO710gcQgmYUPaQ6oFleDWjfwZ31RnCfDu0G++lPVzCx0E wUcCHcRBAoxvUnX7TmgWmzQkkJ0dQ5M2NL+rXVQEy7+X1iI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8j0YPHT5dXwDX37aMsZHxQRhxdVwBsvRUvpu9UvY8inHB3G9WxDIkgRjUvsrvslrN4wWhJPlKd+1e8KbgRyn4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:59b:b0:177:9d68:61fa with SMTP id m27-20020a056870059b00b001779d6861famr2566609oap.5.1679291983924; Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:59:43 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3faa3481-abe3-47cd-f273-2658db42a5bc@gmail.com> <11239785ba0531583f29189b133ceafdcded8aad.camel@blues-softwares.net> <20230320064815.e2576f5c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20230320064815.e2576f5c.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:59:07 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: html rich text colored To: Polytropon Cc: white-wolf , User Questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002d118505f74ea23e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Pg3wd4dFJz3r4D X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2001:4860:4864::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000002d118505f74ea23e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:48=E2=80=AFAM Polytropon wrote= : > On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:32:49 +0100, white-wolf wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-03-19 at 22:22 +0000, Graham Perrin wrote: > > > On 19/03/2023 22:01, white-wolf wrote: > > > > > > > hello, > > > > why FreeBSD mailing list don't use html mode for mailing list ? =E2= =80=A6 > > > You can use HTML, but not HTML only, and the FreeBSD-provided > > > archives will not show the HTML part of a multipart/alternative > > > message. > > > > > but for automated message, portscout, bugzilla and else... > > i think is better to use some color in message... > > Depends. > > First of all, you can use text decoration to achieve what > colors could be used for, e. g., sectioning, emphasize, > bringing structure to text. Creating such text has a long > and powerful tradition especially in UNIX world. > > Additionally, users not able to see colors (or not able > to see anything) would have no advantage from being > provided colored text, so the added complexity adds > risks (hidden links in HTML, tracking, etc.) and > requires more resources on the side of the recipient > (MUA must be able to render HTML, automated postprocessing > much more complicated). > > So in the end, using text-only seems to be the best way > to reach a maximum audience by investing minimum > resources. The more compatible something is designed, > the better it can be used. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > Some mail readers have options : - Show HTML messages as TEXT which they are not readable easily - Move HTML messages to Trash from this sender These mean that an HTML message sender may waste her or his messages for security seeking receivers . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk --0000000000002d118505f74ea23e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:48= =E2=80=AFAM Polytropon <freebsd@edva= x.de> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:32:49 +0100, white-wolf wrote:
> On Sun, 2023-03-19 at 22:22 +0000, Graham Perrin wrote:
> > On 19/03/2023 22:01, white-wolf wrote:
> >=C2=A0
> > > hello,
> > > why FreeBSD mailing list don't use html mode for mailing= list ? =E2=80=A6
> > You can use HTML, but not HTML only, and the FreeBSD-provided
> > archives will not show the HTML part of a multipart/alternative > > message.
> >
> but for automated message, portscout, bugzilla and else...
> i think is better to use some color in message...

Depends.

First of all, you can use text decoration to achieve what
colors could be used for, e. g., sectioning, emphasize,
bringing structure to text. Creating such text has a long
and powerful tradition especially in UNIX world.

Additionally, users not able to see colors (or not able
to see anything) would have no advantage from being
provided colored text, so the added complexity adds
risks (hidden links in HTML, tracking, etc.) and
requires more resources on the side of the recipient
(MUA must be able to render HTML, automated postprocessing
much more complicated).

So in the end, using text-only seems to be the best way
to reach a maximum audience by investing minimum
resources. The more compatible something is designed,
the better it can be used.



--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...





Some mail= readers have options :
=C2=A0- Show HTML messages as =C2=A0TEXT which t= hey are not readable easily
=C2=A0- Move HTML messages to Trash from = this sender

These mean that an HTML message sender may waste = her or his messages
for security seeking receivers .


Mehme= t Erol Sanliturk

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