From nobody Wed Mar 01 16:38:34 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PRg0q4StWz3v4gG for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.126.123]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PRg0q13N1z3sRV for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e15b:23::23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 626B92A932; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:38:45 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Mather Message-Id: <915C0D91-97D5-49B4-8F23-A69CDEF1A51F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3C2CB09B-7A52-4A76-ADC2-90AB095E89D1" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.400.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: When the going gets weird - Mac Mini Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:38:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Ian Smith , Tim Daneliuk , User Questions , Trev Roydhouse To: paul beard References: <1d7b3472-d266-b018-8e37-deb4c8331f37@tundraware.com> <1feb6dbc-380a-6e8b-f58d-b7f728d7f2f0@tundraware.com> <32F8C50E-7475-434F-B144-12088B9EE9F8@nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.400.51.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PRg0q13N1z3sRV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1312, ipnet:128.173.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Apple-Mail=_3C2CB09B-7A52-4A76-ADC2-90AB095E89D1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:37 AM, paul beard wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:02=E2=80=AFPM Ian Smith = > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> It's been too quiet here anyway <&^}=3D >>=20 >> I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their = gear. =46rom most Thinkpad manuals: >>=20 >> "If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is = running, and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the = emergency eject hole. The tray will open." >>=20 >> cheers, Ian >>=20 >=20 >=20 > Apple kit used to have the eject hole but it disappeared year = ago=E2=80=A6not sure if the suppliers stopped making drives with that = facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to obscure it. I think w/in = MacOS you can force eject disks w software (diskutll eject might do it).=20= It used to be that if you held down the mouse button when the system was = starting up then it would force-eject the disc in the optical drive. It = looks like this is still true: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255 (For newer Apple Silicon Macs it looks like you need to boot into = Recovery Mode and from there you can access Disk Utility, which will let = you eject the disc.) Cheers, Paul. --Apple-Mail=_3C2CB09B-7A52-4A76-ADC2-90AB095E89D1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On Mar 1, = 2023, at 10:37 AM, paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at = 11:02=E2=80=AFPM Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> = wrote:


It's been too quiet here anyway <&^}=3D

I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their = gear.  =46rom most Thinkpad manuals:

"If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is = running, and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the = emergency eject hole. The tray will open."

cheers, Ian


Apple kit used to have the eject hole = but it disappeared year ago=E2=80=A6not sure if the suppliers stopped = making drives with that facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to = obscure it. I think w/in MacOS you can force eject disks w software = (diskutll eject might do = it). 


It used = to be that if you held down the mouse button when the system was = starting up then it would force-eject the disc in the optical drive. =  It looks like this is still true: https://support.apple.co= m/en-us/HT201255

(For newer Apple Silicon = Macs it looks like you need to boot into Recovery Mode and from there = you can access Disk Utility, which will let you eject the = disc.)

Cheers,

Paul.
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