From nobody Wed Mar 01 15:37:19 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PRdf36sBKz3v16P for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x112d.google.com (mail-yw1-x112d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PRdf350sGz3jdx for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x112d.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-536af432ee5so372723557b3.0 for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 07:37:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9tCDWxTcnMga+I9T4/4NJDMk433i9IDbwxiJ5B2CLdk=; b=kHW5TsL4GGL2rJbkU4c9vmrcXt68g4oZH3s9mya1s0jOlf1PL3XOTIVfU67LSGHof0 +nn2Y+dWMQZOX2OOuc1+E5+KRfldRNkrqsIQVX8e5KBVuCgj3tAQC4ED9P92Jz1XhoiZ mQfIE76n0w68SE4NC14XVCZXtnv4Dmiv75f+/B4HngTCaZ49KNCROw1Wam263ileUE9U KLlEJMcpxGi/BfxrAsNlbh7yCpzZwzI2E8dveBJU8b5OkfYGA1/sFi8UKEyfVxO6rF6A okGTragQobIaG6hjKByGufXPYb+BQhN0H2GHx2tBaW68sh9mfgLfwwhtt1yLx/Fc3bKk c5UQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9tCDWxTcnMga+I9T4/4NJDMk433i9IDbwxiJ5B2CLdk=; b=JGTa9M2w/3PXQ1G00bOfQodtYynGXX3AXXXH/fg2BnPwtXGkJpxSu2rkBn9U13nNMr R3ITawdNpLHN5t/v7zQRgn5hnx2JbJ+102tqRyeAgt8aylpt9OOHkjNkfMsifN+NhX8C bs8Dbano2tEo9kJZDm1IOrOhrJfBKg1R2WIJOmAn4/XAqt9xd3Ss498f1qX8uyqTCd8s 7Ib0WNU5SeZRcFCOe4+1zjreSuB68HJv0+r+Oln3BohtFNlwJ1F45wNRp9rGHKKNElBn l6CvtRsp9VJO1h0EYGkYVd58Sd7VYtA3QOsZEsDBBLIzNx9BuZ4i9VCsO0V6eFrhW9TW 0zWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVaEKUZOQgdnpUod5+UYd2mm0idNBuBRTqPrNy2KDEnuIWMwURw bMwwip058JqVn0N0O/nkXNFuGY48tu36hcOWaIo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set97jTy926XKxU8SZeOV0NnLzv1o4O4SZEY91QE7oBqOta46ah+hAr2U1q1hGnjClThlppF1Wmvpjq8COEXTImo= X-Received: by 2002:a81:b609:0:b0:52f:24ac:9575 with SMTP id u9-20020a81b609000000b0052f24ac9575mr4038032ywh.3.1677685050783; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 07:37:30 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1d7b3472-d266-b018-8e37-deb4c8331f37@tundraware.com> <1feb6dbc-380a-6e8b-f58d-b7f728d7f2f0@tundraware.com> <32F8C50E-7475-434F-B144-12088B9EE9F8@nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <32F8C50E-7475-434F-B144-12088B9EE9F8@nimnet.asn.au> From: paul beard Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 07:37:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: When the going gets weird - Mac Mini To: Ian Smith Cc: Tim Daneliuk , questions@freebsd.org, Trev Roydhouse Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007f3c1005f5d87dd4" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PRdf350sGz3jdx X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000007f3c1005f5d87dd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:02=E2=80=AFPM Ian Smith w= rote: > > > It's been too quiet here anyway <&^}=3D > > I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their gear. > From most Thinkpad manuals: > > "If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is running, > and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the emergency eject > hole. The tray will open." > > cheers, Ian > > Apple kit used to have the eject hole but it disappeared year ago=E2=80=A6n= ot sure if the suppliers stopped making drives with that facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to obscure it. I think w/in MacOS you can force eject disks w software (diskutll eject might do it). --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --0000000000007f3c1005f5d87dd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:02=E2=80= =AFPM Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.a= sn.au> wrote:


It's been too quiet here anyway <&^}=3D

I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their gear.= =C2=A0 From most Thinkpad manuals:

"If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is runni= ng, and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the emergency ejec= t hole. The tray will open."

cheers, Ian


Apple kit used to have the eject hole but= it disappeared year ago=E2=80=A6not sure if the suppliers stopped making d= rives with that facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to obscure it. I = think w/in MacOS you can force eject disks w software (diskutll=C2=A0eject = might do it).=C2=A0

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