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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RDq024qnxz3K7N X-Spamd-Bar: --- --000000000000412f700601c2feb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 8:03=E2=80=AFPM Tom Browder = wrote: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:42 Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > I am using the virtualenv method detailed here: > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-in= stall > > And I use that on ALL OSes - Debian, FreeBSD, etc. At one point I even > did it on OpenBSD running in a VM. > > It's the most painless installation method you can ever have. > > Using packages (Linux) or ports (FreeBSD) are painful and prone to > breakage! > > Thanks so much, Odhiambo, looks like a good recipe! > > In return, I offer you a great language in place of Python: Raku > (formerly Perl 6). I think > you will like it, and I think it is much easier for new coders to > learn. Check it out > here: . > > [Bias alert and shameless plug: I have been using Perl since 1993 and > then Raku since 2015. I am a core > developer for Raku, and I have published over 40 OpenSource Raku > modules. Enter my Github and IRC > handle 'tbrowder' to see the list at .] > > Best regards, > > -Tom > Heheee. Now I see the reason for the bias towards Sympa :-) I have never heard of Raku - until today. --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --000000000000412f700601c2feb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 8:03=E2=80=AF= PM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:42 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Hi Tom,
> I am using the virtualenv method detailed here: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/= virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install
> And I use that on ALL OSes - Debian, FreeBSD, etc. At one point I even= did it on OpenBSD running in a VM.
> It's the most painless installation method you can ever have.
> Using packages (Linux) or ports (FreeBSD) are painful and prone to bre= akage!

Thanks so much, Odhiambo, looks like a good recipe!

In return, I offer you a great language in place of Python: Raku
(formerly Perl 6). I think
you will like it, and I think it is much easier for new coders to
learn. Check it out
here: <https://Raku.org>.

[Bias alert and shameless plug: I have been using Perl since 1993 and
then Raku since 2015. I am a core
developer for Raku, and I have published over 40 OpenSource Raku
modules. Enter my Github and IRC
handle 'tbrowder' to see the list at <https://Raku.land>.]

Best regards,

-Tom

Heheee. Now I see the reason for the bias= towards Sympa :-)

I have never heard of Raku - until to= day.

--
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254 = 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
"Oh, = the cruft.",=C2=A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#'=C2=A0=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
[How to ask = smart questions:=C2=A0http://= www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
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