From nobody Sun Jul 30 17:02:36 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RDSPc4GRpz4pDNK for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.browder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x1029.google.com (mail-pj1-x1029.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RDSPJ2Wtyz4QX6 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.browder@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pj1-x1029.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-26837895fbbso2760195a91.3 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2023 10:03:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1690736594; x=1691341394; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SmRaMB8T6hwTTM9Mn4ep5LWxe71d16OTS8p2b39+TnQ=; b=A8REwZxyimFwIm4NGc6fv1T6bZpVcGEHqIaTuacUm7nmciuT/Q0T1PLq0CoDnRJtMq eORwpj9GbTMnHc21mFissyrPeLmoH1cjpXoPyMiG+jHlpTwTz5ooHro6TreSySfkKIVb Zg70HH0PF79dIlHTJff7A9v+2MzHv7LzFbs0JVhe4p36dlrZr9CcC/9A10UuECPtv/GI G1W6w8eBFLZD/tfsYy14pdg1zvcj3/fVn/JOOCGzm0pcaH5mg5HS7hkUcPHMFNxKcDMx khfZ+aSEcQ0uihW0ynB7wxwAv6Rr0LNDg8nbTmFVqv2U9tg/KL9exVAUH97SlNBFDN4q H5FQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1690736594; x=1691341394; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=SmRaMB8T6hwTTM9Mn4ep5LWxe71d16OTS8p2b39+TnQ=; b=dPpGRHeP6kkHN9NXNYgwCRdggCyAqgj2I+TsCQhVq2IJ9Od3euG4MZ0pq+izC7vkj0 qjP3O/apa/M1dBTyCQWKPjBYhdpAfc9XjbXzs91zj1Mr2zrmSZNyJWETHz3gKoUvVkb7 ik/pl4lDYfTjQ+evz+/G6immEeMc5VBtTH+v+p7hQZZEm5irI6FFNAm6E/3j/SAlCmnH bBQzNXhN91QnYJot1b41TqjJRlfIPOzuO7d+XmToujUMp93w+tX4ovemzltk6onU0gXN 73cd9CKFMhre1JKgp/yjgxCXE7pwn3YXBYrCAUZz++XAsPc+okvpetcpLSw1+0cWdNSU +5Pw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLbkX8cJz6NWzjcw6IhfgTkxRV0qOGt3n70XsbZp8hEsadFpzjvi RdfSZQ875FQnkx+njpEWf7e5e/rbVCBdBlbrg50= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlG8cJX8Zu0TNUX9jUaS7CrDXaCvjoyRWoACHYfjMu9ByKMjmNRelnZMubIS3m/kzKK+4sPWVQ0AOFHOgb69ILM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:3e4e:b0:262:ee7d:2d20 with SMTP id t14-20020a17090a3e4e00b00262ee7d2d20mr7736243pjm.12.1690736594025; Sun, 30 Jul 2023 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tom Browder Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 12:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sympa mailing list manager To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RDSPJ2Wtyz4QX6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:42 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi Tom, > I am using the virtualenv method detailed here: https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install > And I use that on ALL OSes - Debian, FreeBSD, etc. At one point I even did it on OpenBSD running in a VM. > It's the most painless installation method you can ever have. > Using packages (Linux) or ports (FreeBSD) are painful and prone to breakage! Thanks so much, Odhiambo, looks like a good recipe! In return, I offer you a great language in place of Python: Raku (formerly Perl 6). I think you will like it, and I think it is much easier for new coders to learn. Check it out here: . [Bias alert and shameless plug: I have been using Perl since 1993 and then Raku since 2015. I am a core developer for Raku, and I have published over 40 OpenSource Raku modules. Enter my Github and IRC handle 'tbrowder' to see the list at .] Best regards, -Tom