From nobody Thu Jul 13 00:22:20 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4R1b0N2VBnz4mnRm for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.200.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4R1b0L1R8Gz3lCp; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tom@khubla.com designates 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tom@khubla.com; dmarc=none Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E66620D9; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:22:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo07-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo07-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bHuEMl5J1Hmj; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gargamel-2.ascot.khubla.lan (d198-166-24-90.abhsia.telus.net [198.166.24.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63FB461DB9; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 13.2-p1 hanging To: Graham Perrin Cc: questions@freebsd.org References: <280960a2-6406-97bc-173b-0ddc7a2ce75a@khubla.com> <90c9f1e5-b1eb-3c54-2f37-fc35ae1570af@khubla.com> <48201e39-f3d1-488a-9d9a-7342ef91a54e@freebsd.org> <6fd724c5-1ac7-39a7-b805-91dcdcd73927@khubla.com> <5bdac425-adfd-2f98-c1ec-ecec6ea09508@freebsd.org> <5b220b92-8882-6755-f4a6-daedc11a4d30@Gmail.com> From: Tom Everett Message-ID: <5fdf71d3-fb0e-066a-d3ab-4963755afb08@khubla.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 18:22:20 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.60 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AFB1D79A4861C8EC3FA5A38E" Content-Language: en-US X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.49 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[64.68.200.34:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.68.200.0/22]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[khubla.com]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[tom]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4R1b0L1R8Gz3lCp X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AFB1D79A4861C8EC3FA5A38E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, it may be time to downgrade.  I've cleaned all the fans with compressed air, since heat is always a suspect, and disconnected USB devices.  Over the past two weeks the host now has an MTBF of about 2 days.  Always the same symptom; it just freezes.   I enabled SMART on the root disk; it seems to be healthy.  I don't see any concerning messages in the logs. I am on FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 So, to downgrade to the previous kernel would this be the right command-line? freebsd-update upgrade -r 13.2-RELEASE freebsd-update install freebsd-update install pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd pkg-static install -fy pkg pkg upgrade -fy freebsd-update install reboot (instructions essentially from here: https://lifeforms.nl/20141224/downgrading-with-freebsd-update) > Graham Perrin > July 3, 2023 at 11:05 PM > > On 02/07/2023 00:50, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > Am I missing something? > > (This is a RELEASE case.) > > Steven Friedrich > July 1, 2023 at 5:50 PM > I would try the buildworld, buildkernel before spending time fretting. > YMMV. > > > > Graham Perrin > July 1, 2023 at 11:06 AM > On 01/07/2023 16:37, Tom Everett wrote: > > > > Add the line below to /etc/sysctl.conf then restart the OS. > > hw.acpi.power_button_state="S5" > > > S5 should cause a press on the power button to gracefully shut down > the computer. In my experience this button sometimes works when > FreeBSD is otherwise unresponsive. > > I guess, the next thing to consider would be graphics. > > > Tom Everett > July 1, 2023 at 9:37 AM > Hey Graham just a follow-up that things have been stable, until this > morning when I woke up to essentially the same; system hung and > unresponsive to the keyboard or ssh. > > > > > Tom Everett > June 26, 2023 at 7:37 AM > That is possible.  Thanks! > > > -- Sent from Postbox --------------AFB1D79A4861C8EC3FA5A38E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, it may be time to downgrade.  I've cleaned all the fans with compressed air, since heat is always a suspect, and disconnected USB devices.  Over the past two weeks the host now has an MTBF of about 2 days.  Always the same symptom; it just freezes.   I enabled SMART on the root disk; it seems to be healthy.  I don't see any concerning messages in the logs.

I am on FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64

So, to downgrade to the previous kernel would this be the right command-line?

freebsd-update upgrade -r 13.2-RELEASE
freebsd-update install
freebsd-update install
pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd
pkg-static install -fy pkg
pkg upgrade -fy
freebsd-update install
reboot

(instructions essentially from here: https://lifeforms.nl/20141224/downgrading-with-freebsd-update)
July 3, 2023 at 11:05 PM

On 02/07/2023 00:50, Steven Friedrich wrote:

Am I missing something?

(This is a RELEASE case.)

July 1, 2023 at 5:50 PM
I would try the buildworld, buildkernel before spending time fretting. YMMV.



July 1, 2023 at 11:06 AM
On 01/07/2023 16:37, Tom Everett wrote:



Add the line below to /etc/sysctl.conf then restart the OS.

hw.acpi.power_button_state="S5"


S5 should cause a press on the power button to gracefully shut down the computer. In my experience this button sometimes works when FreeBSD is otherwise unresponsive.

I guess, the next thing to consider would be graphics.


July 1, 2023 at 9:37 AM
Hey Graham just a follow-up that things have been stable, until this morning when I woke up to essentially the same; system hung and unresponsive to the keyboard or ssh.




June 26, 2023 at 7:37 AM
That is possible.  Thanks!




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